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  • #51
    Originally posted by Erbad View Post
    How do you know that Oscar has no influence over the rankings? Because he said so? When contemplating things like this, corporate bias and the such, a degree of skepticism goes a long way to looking past the hype.

    You become the number one guy...

    When you beat the number one guy. Kelly Pavlik by knocking out Taylor became the number one guy.
    because these rankings dont even look close to being anywhere near controversial, they look within their normal tier of doing things.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Erbad View Post
      I watch too much TV, I skateboard too much, I play basketball too much. There is just so much time in the day, I know. I'll mind my schedule and you do the same.

      Don't be kind, I have thick skin. Don't hold back because that would detract from any points we may unveil through the process of debate. Wouldn't you agree?

      Other than that filler talk, your only point was that I named three fighters who happened to be from Germany, and that Europe does not consist solely of Germany. Still, your point doesn't reach any conclusions and a link to Wikipedia is meaningless since I already have the site bookmarked.

      Anything else, wanker boy?
      What've we got here:

      1. Seems to know for a fact all European fighters can pick anyone to fight unlike other entire regions. Wow. Just wow.
      2. Uses a prime for prime opinionated hypothetical fight between Hops and Abraham as somehow significantly relevant it Live up to date p4p rankings.
      3. Criticises for one for name calling, only to then, name call.
      4. Fills us all in on your day to day routine then accuses me of 'filling'.
      5. Fails to see the patently obvious tongue in cheek mention or www.wikipedia.org

      It's clear why your teachers ran out of space in your report card. There's just too much to work with here. Enjoy the basketball though...

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      • #53
        Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
        What've we got here:

        1. Seems to know for a fact all European fighters can pick anyone to fight unlike other entire regions. Wow. Just wow.
        2. Uses a prime for prime opinionated hypothetical fight between Hops and Abraham as somehow significantly relevant it Live up to date p4p rankings.
        3. Criticises for one for name calling, only to then, name call.
        4. Fills us all in on your day to day routine then accuses me of 'filling'.
        5. Fails to see the patently obvious tongue in cheek mention or www.wikipedia.org

        It's clear why your teachers ran out of space in your report card. There's just too much to work with here. Enjoy the basketball though...
        1. Enzo Maccarinelli.

        2. I went off topic with the comparison, but the meat of the argument, that Abraham's achievements don't rise to the level of P4P status.

        3. You're a girl, stop crying. Don't wet your knickers mate.

        4. You're a gimp, I have proof.

        5. It must be British humor, like Jeeves or some **** that isn't funny to anyone else.

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        • #54


          Is this **** supposed to be funny?

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          • #55
            P4P I would rank most on the list above Calzaghe, maybe others see something in him, I don't.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
              Why isn't Victor Luis Lozoya ranked higher than Margarito?

              Since Marg lost to Williams in a razor thin decision he has put together three impressive stoppage wins against increasingly better opposition including the ranked number one. I would guess that in the opinion of the Ring's staff Margarito has the beating of Williams in a rematch.
              Razor thin? Try clear. I won't argue that it was a close fight (I had it 115-113), but he clearly beat him. I mean I see him not being in the pound for pound list because that is subjective opinion, but in the welterweight rankings, Williams deserves to be #1.

              So he's a full-time fighter, even though he's been on the semi-retired circuit of fighting once a year in PPV special attraction fights since losing twice to Jermain Taylor?
              If I get a part time job at the Gap and I decide I want to work full time. My boss (except Hopkins doesn't need permission) lets me. Am I not a full time worker?

              Hopkins is fighting 2 times a year this year. That makes him a full time fighter imo.

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              • #57
                Also what does Golden Boy have to gain by *****g Hopkins at 4? It's really not like pound for pound means anything.

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                • #58
                  Margarito needs to fight Williams.. Some of his fans are too afraid of him and want him to fight an aging Oscar..

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
                    Also what does Golden Boy have to gain by *****g Hopkins at 4? It's really not like pound for pound means anything.
                    Its an unofficial title that gives you greater leverage in landing big fights. As long as he's a P4P fighter, he can't be washed up.

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                    • #60
                      It's like watching a kid doing a 50cent act on American Idol, profoundly embarassing, moving away from you now...

                      Your a most peculiar boy.

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