If Mayweather were to come back and fight Margarito..

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yes, because moving up above your natural fighting weight by a few pounds and then moving up to a weight where you'd have to increase your mass by like 20% is so similar.

I get it, you only care about what happens in the weight class a fighter is currently fighting in and anything in the past and skills they show in the ring against any opponent is irrelevant... Just don't expect a lot of people to agree with you for those reasons.

again, what does 130 have to do with 147?

Why would I care about what a welterweight did in the past at 130?

I don't expect Floyd stans to agree me, they're Floyd stans.

But just a reminder,

what does 130 have to do with 147?


For example, what does Manny Pacquiaos career at 112 have to do with 135?

[Dirt E Gomez]

All while avoiding the best in the division.


Can you tell me, since you've seen probably most of Floyds fights, these outcomes


Cotto-Floyd
Margarito-Floyd
Williams-Floyd
Mosley-Floyd
Clottey-Floyd

None of those fights happened. But last I checked, None of them have fought Berto. Margarito never fought Mosley, Clottey, or Judah (or Cotto at that time). Cotto never fought Williams or Clottey. Clottey never fought Cotto, Williams, or Mosley.

Seems like a lot of fights haven't happened.... weird. It's all on Floyd's shoulders though, shame on him.

[Vasyl’s dad]

None of those fights happened. But last I checked, None of them have fought Berto. Margarito never fought Mosley, Clottey, or Judah (or Cotto at that time). Cotto never fought Williams or Clottey. Clottey never fought Cotto, Williams, or Mosley.

Seems like a lot of fights haven't happened.... weird. It's all on Floyd's shoulders though, shame on him.

The funny thing is, most of those fighters are fighting eachother.

Floyd hasn't faced a single one.


lol Berto.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

I don't believe in Mayweather anymore since he retired. I think Cotto scared him into retirement, especially when looking back at what he told Larry Merchant after the Hatton fight when he was asked about Cotto. I think Cotto would have given him a hell of a fight, but I think Margo would give him hell. Mayweather is by far the more superior boxer, but Margo has such a huge size advantage and on top of it he keeps coming and coming. I just slightly lean toward Margo, although I'm probably way wrong about this fight. lol

[Silencers]

Styles make fights, Mayweather by decision.

[Dirt E Gomez]

again, what does 130 have to do with 147?

Why would I care about what a welterweight did in the past at 130?

I don't expect Floyd stans to agree me, they're Floyd stans.

But just a reminder,

what does 130 have to do with 147?


For example, what does Manny Pacquiaos career at 112 have to do with 135?

What do past weight classes deal with new ones?

1: Most fighters don't jump in weight so far where they're out of their element. Despite fighters moving up a handful of weight classes, the overwhelming vast majority of them still stay within their limits... thus while it looks impressive it's not like a flyweight is taking on a 190lber.

2: A fighters skills continue to evolve as their careers do in most cases. By viewing a fighter's accomplishments and abilities in years past, whether it be at different weight classes or not, can show you what they're actually capable of. I know, a novelty idea of actually making predictions based upon ability and not just resumes.

3: Slates don't get wiped clean because you move up in weight. When Cotto moved up from 140-147 what did he do at 147 to earn a shot at a title? I guess every fighter should start their careers over when they change weights because they have to prove themselves whenever they change weights.

I'm done with you. I can't logically continue to debate with somebody who feels like recent history is somehow irrelevant in a discussion about boxing.

I hope anybody who reads this takes note of this and maybe learns to stop trying to just "prove a point" regardless of how ridiculous the point may be.

[poeticlsykuac]

again, what does 130 have to do with 147?

Why would I care about what a welterweight did in the past at 130?

I don't expect Floyd stans to agree me, they're Floyd stans.

But just a reminder,

what does 130 have to do with 147?


For example, what does Manny Pacquiaos career at 112 have to do with 135?

He is a ****** bro. He can't figure out that you need to face challengers at your current weight to be the champion of it.

Cotto is more talented then Margarito especially on paper, Margarito won. Judah is more talented then everyone he has faced yet he has what 5 losses? Meldrick Taylor was more talented then Chavez he lost. Jermain Taylor is more talented then Pavlik. Lewis was more talented then Rahman.

Man this list could go on and on, yet he can't figure it out. Things don't always go as planned, that is why they have to fight, if not then we wouldn't need these matches.

[Vasyl’s dad]

What do past weight classes deal with new ones?

1: Most fighters don't jump in weight so far where they're out of their element. Despite fighters moving up a handful of weight classes, the overwhelming vast majority of them still stay within their limits... thus while it looks impressive it's not like a flyweight is taking on a 190lber.

2: A fighters skills continue to evolve as their careers do in most cases. By viewing a fighter's accomplishments and abilities in years past, whether it be at different weight classes or not, can show you what they're actually capable of. I know, a novelty idea of actually making predictions based upon ability and not just resumes.

3: Slates don't get wipes clean because you move up in weight. When Cotto moved up from 140-147 what did he do at 140 to earn a shot at a title? I guess every fighter should start their careers over when they change weights because they have to prove themselves whenever they change weights.

I'm done with you. I can't logically continue to debate with somebody who feels like recent history is somehow irrelevant in a discussion about boxing.

Kid, you've been done. Nothing you've said has answered any question I put forth.



"Floyd was a beast at 130 so he'll automatically beat the best at 147. He doesn't really have to do it, he did it at 130 against the best there, so I just know he'll do it at welter."


lol you call that logic.

[Vasyl’s dad]

He is a ****** bro. He can't figure out that you need to face challengers at your current weight to be the champion of it.

Cotto is more talented then Margarito especially on paper, Margarito won. Judah is more talented then everyone he has faced yet he has what 5 losses? Meldrick Taylor was more talented then Chavez he lost. Jermain Taylor is more talented then Pavlik. Lewis was more talented then Rahman.

Man this list could go on and on, yet he can't figure it out. Things don't always go as planned, that is why they have to fight, if not then we wouldn't need these matches.

I've been saying this same thing for ever man.

Hey did you see that fight back when Mike Tyson ****ed up Buster Douglas?

That was classic Tyson. He just came in and didn't even have to fight, he just scowled in Busters face and the fight was over. Not because he was scared of Tysons face,












he just knew about Tysons abilities.

[poeticlsykuac]

What do past weight classes deal with new ones?

1: Most fighters don't jump in weight so far where they're out of their element. Despite fighters moving up a handful of weight classes, the overwhelming vast majority of them still stay within their limits... thus while it looks impressive it's not like a flyweight is taking on a 190lber.

2: A fighters skills continue to evolve as their careers do in most cases. By viewing a fighter's accomplishments and abilities in years past, whether it be at different weight classes or not, can show you what they're actually capable of. I know, a novelty idea of actually making predictions based upon ability and not just resumes.

3: Slates don't get wipes clean because you move up in weight. When Cotto moved up from 140-147 what did he do at 140 to earn a shot at a title? I guess every fighter should start their careers over when they change weights because they have to prove themselves whenever they change weights.

I'm done with you. I can't logically continue to debate with somebody who feels like recent history is somehow irrelevant in a discussion about boxing.

I hope anybody who reads this takes note of this and maybe learns to stop trying to just "prove a point" regardless of how ridiculous the point may be.

We are not talking about earning a title shot, we are talking about fighting and proving yourself at your own weight division. I do consider Mayweather the best boxer in the last decade. That doesn't change the point that he was unwilling to fight fighters in his "championship" weight class. You can't be expected to taken seriously when you are taking belts from Baldomir. You need to show you can compete in your own division.