If Mayweather were to come back and fight Margarito..

[poeticlsykuac]

So we're talking about strictly their resumes at Welter?

You realize that Cotto's resume at Welter isn't even that impressive either... right?

You can debate say it's better than Floyd's... and it is, but not by some landslide.

Cotto's Welterweight wins: Quintana, Urkal, Judah, Mosley, and Gomes.
Mayweather's Welterweight wins: Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, and Hatton.

Man... Cotto's resume is soooooooo much better than Mayweather's. <- Sarcasm

This forum has a plague of sheeple. They read a post and suddenly it becomes fact and it gets twisted and twisted so far that it doesn't even resemble anything factual in nature by the end. If your argument that Cotto is either a better fighter or would somehow beat Floyd is based around the fact that Cotto's resume is slightly ahead of Mayweather's at only Welterweight... well, then there's no hope for you as a poster and I can suggest some ****tier sites where people might tolerate your idiocy.

So Mayweather faced 3 natural 140 pounders and a feather fisted 147 pounder? At least Cotto fought Mosley and Quintana some natural 147 pounders. Neither of these guys got amazing resumes at 147. But if your going to consider yourself the champ of the division you best face some competition from the same division.

[Vasyl’s dad]

basically I have nothing to say.

I agree you don't.

[Vasyl’s dad]

So Mayweather faced 3 natural 140 pounders and a feather fisted 147 pounder? At least Cotto fought Mosley and Quintana some natural 147 pounders. Neither of these guys got amazing resumes at 147. But if your going to consider yourself the champ of the division you best face some competition from the same division.

Nah, screw that. All that matters is that Floyd was a beast against the best at 130 and 135, so we'll just assume he can beat any and everyone at 140 and above. He doesn't have to prove, as long as he says it, its enough.

[Dirt E Gomez]

You can type about abilities all you want but it doesn't mean a thing until its done in the ring.

Mayweather hasn't done it in the ring against the best prime welters.

And none of them have done it against Mayweather. So, by the logic which you've shown... anything shown in the past doesn't matter. Resumes at the current weight are the only thing that are relevant. Skills and abilities shown in the past are moot, as it's not done in the present. And now, using your most recent post, their skills only matter when they get into the ring.

I suppose that works if I don't want to actually, you know, know anything about the fighters I'm watching.

[poeticlsykuac]

Name One Fight Where Floyd ran as Much as Cotto Did Against Margarito?

Probably less then the amount of fights Mayweather's hugged himself to a win. Since well that is every fight.

Floyd has never been in with a fighter like Margarito so when would he have had to? No he hasn't ran into anyone who fights like Margarito.

My question to you is when has Cotto clinched his way to a win? When did Mayweather fight a 147 pound fighter?

Cotto fought a smart boxing match, but at least he fought.

[Vasyl’s dad]

And none of them have done it against Mayweather. So, by the logic which you've shown... anything shown in the past doesn't matter. Resumes at the current weight are the only thing that are relevant. Skills and abilities shown in the past are moot, as it's not done in the present. And now, using your most recent post, their skills only matter when they get into the ring.

I suppose that works if I don't want to actually, you know, know anything about the fighters I'm watching.

So I guess, Floyd can go all the way up to light heavy just because he has the skills. lol.




147 has nothing to do with 130. Theres a reason why Floyd has avoided the big boys at welter, they're bigger, stronger and can put a beating on him. Of course nobody at those weights has done it to him, hes afraid to step in the ring with them.

Get over it.

[Dirt E Gomez]

So Mayweather faced 3 natural 140 pounders and a feather fisted 147 pounder? At least Cotto fought Mosley and Quintana some natural 147 pounders. Neither of these guys got amazing resumes at 147. But if your going to consider yourself the champ of the division you best face some competition from the same division.

Who is the "champ" of the division? Nobody has an amazing resume strictly at147 given the names at the "top" and the fighters who have different wins over different fighters. Mayweather, at the time, had just as much right to claim Champ of 147, along with the linear belt and obvious p4p status to bolster his claim.

[Dirt E Gomez]

So I guess, Floyd can go all the way up to light heavy just because he has the skills. lol.

147 has nothing to do with 130. Theres a reason why Floyd has avoided the big boys at welter, they're bigger, stronger and can put a beating on him.

Get over it.

Yes, because moving up above your natural fighting weight by a few pounds and then moving up to a weight where you'd have to increase your mass by like 20% is so similar.

I get it, you only care about what happens in the weight class a fighter is currently fighting in and anything in the past and skills they show in the ring against any opponent is irrelevant... Just don't expect a lot of people to agree with you for those reasons.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Who is the "champ" of the division? Nobody has an amazing resume strictly at147 given the names at the "top" and the fighters who have different wins over different fighters. Mayweather, at the time, had just as much right to claim Champ of 147, along with the linear belt and obvious p4p status to bolster his claim.

All while avoiding the best in the division.


Can you tell me, since you've seen probably most of Floyds fights, these outcomes


Cotto-Floyd
Margarito-Floyd
Williams-Floyd
Mosley-Floyd
Clottey-Floyd

[poeticlsykuac]

And none of them have done it against Mayweather. So, by the logic which you've shown... anything shown in the past doesn't matter. Resumes at the current weight are the only thing that are relevant. Skills and abilities shown in the past are moot, as it's not done in the present. And now, using your most recent post, their skills only matter when they get into the ring.

I suppose that works if I don't want to actually, you know, know anything about the fighters I'm watching.

It really is hard for your to justify your point of him being the 147 pound champ, he hasn't fought anyone that is a natural 147 pounder. Mayweather wouldn't even fight Tszyu back in the day. He simply doesn't face punchers. How are we suppose to know how he performs in this division when he isn't willing to fight anyone from it. A past prime Judah and Mitchell aren't exactly impressive. Cotto took on challengers, Mayweather made excuses and avoided challengers in his division.

Do we honestly know how he would perform against a tough 147 pounder? The answer is no, because he won't fight one. I think he could beat any on them but his unwillingness to do so speaks volumes about his "greatness".