If Mayweather were to come back and fight Margarito..

[Vasyl’s dad]

You still have yet to dispute my point,

Thats his M.O.


After that comes some corny insult.

[Dirt E Gomez]

You still have yet to dispute my point, at what point has he proven he can beat these 147 pounders. Margarito still wants a piece and based on that I have to go with the Margarito in the win. It is obvious that Floyd is scared, that is an auto L if you ask me. You are the one that dragged this argument around to floyd being god not us, no one can beat him, and then you red k me, what the hell?

When did Margarito prove he was worth a damn at 147 until just last weekend? His wins over... uh... Cintron? Golden Johnson?... Cintron again maybe?

If you're asking me to prove a point as to how Mayweather could beat them, then my obvious retort is for you to prove that they can beat him. What have they done to prove they could beat Floyd?

At 147 at the time of his retirement he had just as much claim as any of the other titleholders of being the best at 147. He gets the bonus of being the linear champ and p4p king at the time which only furthers many people's rational.

[poeticlsykuac]

He did. And he chose the path to $$$. You can hate him for it, but that doesn't somehow make him some welterweight fraud. It means he didn't give a lot of boxing fans fights we wanted to see in hindsight, but certainly did at the time.

I don't have a problem with choosing money. I have a problem with you considering yourself the best and not willing to fight anyone even considered remotely the best. You want to be considered an all time great and in your dead prime you are not willing to fight the best. This to me is just a waste of should of could of would of. He could have been considered the best ever but he refused to show he can even fight the best in his division during his prime. I don't take away anything from Mayweather's achievements at 130 or 135, he was amazing I put him among the best ever at that weight, if not the best. However I can't say that at welterweight or jr welterweight the divisions where he became noticed as the p4p king. He never fought the best.

I will admit I wanted to see the Judah fight because of Judah's talent, he is faster and has more power then Mayweather. But to be the best I want you to show me you are in the division you are in. I don't find that to be to much to ask but hey if you do good for you, I just wish I had your ******ed intelligence.


My point is simple your a close minded douche bag. You red K me over nothing.

[mECHsLAVE]

Riddle me this:

Are you honestly saying that in a fight between Cotto and Mayweather, you feel Cotto should be the favorite to win? Because that's all I'm talking about. I don't give a flying **** about ******s who take examples and comments to extreme ends of the spectrum.

No, I wouldn't expect that, but for my line, yes. I would have (past tense) given Cotto the edge in that fight. His defense is exceptional for that offensive of a fighter, and of course based on Cotto's punching power, his combos, his handspeed, his footwork. Mayweather has faced those things, but not all in the same fighter, not at that level of power and strength. But would I expect Vegas to favor Cotto? Of course not. Vegas odds are based off of name power, who everyone is going to put their money on, general common knowledge, the general public, ie., not you and I, not serious boxing fans. Cotto can't even speak English. He's not known outside of the boxing community or Puerto Rico, New York, etc. So yes, I favor Cotto. No, I wouldn't expect him to be favored.

Now, that was all before Saturday. Who knows if Cotto can come back from that and be the same fighter?

[Dirt E Gomez]

My point is simple your a close minded douche bag. You red K me over nothing.

Actually, I gave you red karma because you chose to insult me while I'm actually debating and not just calling you all ****ing ******s who are hating on Floyd for obvious facts.

[poeticlsykuac]

When did Margarito prove he was worth a damn at 147 until just last weekend? His wins over... uh... Cintron? Golden Johnson?... Cintron again maybe?

If you're asking me to prove a point as to how Mayweather could beat them, then my obvious retort is for you to prove that they can beat him. What have they done to prove they could beat Floyd?

At 147 at the time of his retirement he had just as much claim as any of the other titleholders of being the best at 147. He gets the bonus of being the linear champ and p4p king at the time which only furthers many people's rational.

LOL how can I prove they can beat them if Mayweather won't fight them? Margarito pre-williams was putting out challenges to Mayweather. Again why the **** doesn't he face these guys if they are such easy wins? The fact that Margarito is a volume puncher with power in both hands and a beard is enough for me to want the fight but that is only because I like to see fighters live up to their word. Margarito was the WBO champ from 02 to 06(then he lost to Paul Williams, 2 fights later he took the IBF). Though he did jump up in weight to fight Santos at 154. You are just being ridiculous. Margarito was a champ at welterweight when Mayweather was a lightweight. Shouldn't he be seeking him out to take the division from him upon entry to the division? Oh wait Baldomir is a way bigger draw and a much harder opponent that proves so much.

You have done nothing but back yourself in the corner and you haven't even figured it out.

[poeticlsykuac]

Actually, I gave you red karma because you chose to insult me while I'm actually debating and not just calling you all ****ing ******s who are hating on Floyd for obvious facts.

Well aren't you? You are so slow you haven't answered many of my questions, in fact you avoided most of them. By the way in a debate you argue against the other ones point. You don't avoid the questions.

[poeticlsykuac]

Well aren't you? You are so slow you haven't answered many of my questions, in fact you avoided most of them.

Does that make you floyd?

[DA1CATAS]

Margo would need to land one CRAZY hayemaker.... if not..mayweather outboxes him.. makes him look dumb.

[Dirt E Gomez]

LOL how can I prove they can beat them if Mayweather won't fight them? Margarito pre-williams was putting out challenges to Mayweather. Again why the **** doesn't he face these guys if they are such easy wins? The fact that Margarito is a volume puncher with power in both hands and a beard is enough for me to want the fight but that is only because I like to see fighters live up to their word. Margarito was the WBO champ from 02 to 06(then he lost to Paul Williams, 2 fights later he took the IBF). Though he did jump up in weight to fight Santos at 154. You are just being ridiculous. Margarito was a champ at welterweight when Mayweather was a lightweight. Shouldn't he be seeking him out to take the division from him upon entry to the division? Oh wait Baldomir is a way bigger draw and a much harder opponent that proves so much.

You have done nothing but back yourself in the corner and you haven't even figured it out.

He was a titleholder... what a coincidence, so was Floyd. So because he held a title for a longer period of time that puts him at the head of the table over Floyd whose win over Judah and Baldomir plus the status I mentioned earlier? The double standard people hold to PBF is absurd. Ask of Floyd what you're asking any of the fighters in the division and they'll all fail the same test.

You attempt to mock me for not making points, yet this whole thing is stemmed from something my 1 simple point: Floyd had as much right (or a little more than) any other title holder at 147 at the time of his retirement to claim he was the top dog... until recently nobody had separated themselves anymore so than anybody else except you could argue Cotto built him a tiny bit better resume at WW compared to the others.

You can ask questions until your fingers fall off but the bottom line is the same I listed before: He didn't fight them and you're not Floyd so all you have is speculation into his actions while you attempt to veil your hate.