Cotto did not quit!!!!!!!!!

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  • oldgringo
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    #11
    Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
    Actually he did, I just saw the entire fight over again and if you look at the last moments of the fight, Cotto clinches Marg on one side of the ring, the ref breaks them apart and then Marg without even throwing one punch, Cotto takes a knee.

    Then he looks at his corner who is waiving the towel TO Cotto as if to say, "Should I throw it in" and Cotto nods his head slightly as if to say "I have had enough."

    Look at it closely and you will see, the corner never physically threw the towel in they just waived it at Cotto to see if it was ok to throw it in and Cotto nodded in approval.
    I saw no nodding as if to say "I quit" or explicit signs that Cotto said, "I quit". His corner stopped the fight...everything you said is conjecture.

    When the corner jumped up on the apron and waived the towel the fight was over genius...Cotto looked over at them when Evangelista got up there.



    If Cotto were going to quit he would have retired on his stool. He took the knee to buy time and his corner saw the writing on the wall.

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    • Scott9945
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      #12
      Originally posted by Ivan Mayweather
      He Quit. He Beat Up Too Much.

      That Too Bad.

      He Much Greater Than Margarito.


      Margarito Only Have Big Head That Take Lot Of Punch. Margarito Suck. He Move Like Mummy.

      Too Bad Cotto Quit.
      You Make ****** Post. That Too Bad. You Write Like Mummy. That Real Bad.

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      • Vladimir303
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        #13
        Originally posted by dstew
        You're not seeing the conclusion in your own comments... he took knees... he had a look of resignation on his face... so you're admitting that he LOOKED like he WANTED to quit, and was ACTING like he wanted to quit... but he didn't quit?

        Has he come out and criticized his corner for stopping the fight?
        Let me explain this to you real quick.

        Just because a fighter is not protesting the corners decision, it doesn't mean that he QUIT. It means he had no problem with the stoppage because he knows he was being outgunned.


        Quittina means when you yourself give up before anybody the ref or your corner steps in.

        EXAMPLES: Acelino Freitas saying "no mas" vs Corrales

        Or recently, Hasim Rahman quitting because of a cutt under his eye even though the doctor didn't think it was that bad.

        Eric Morales winking at his corner in the third Pacquiao fight and not getting up during the count.

        Or just generally the ref asking a fighter "do you want to continue" and the figher knoding his head "NO".

        That's quitting..........THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
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        Last edited by Vladimir303; 07-28-2008, 12:09 AM.

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #14
          Originally posted by oldgringo
          I saw no nodding as if to say "I quit" or explicit signs that Cotto said, "I quit". His corner stopped the fight...everything you said is conjecture.

          When the corner jumped up on the apron and waived the towel the fight was over genius...Cotto looked over at them when Evangelista got up there.



          If Cotto were going to quit he would have retired on his stool. He took the knee to buy time and his corner saw the writing on the wall.
          Find the HBOPPV video if it and you will see that everything I said was true. The corner didn't throw the towel in, they just waived it and waived it AT Cotto, not the ref. Even Lampley, Kellerman and Manuel said the same thing, watch it and see I'm not making **** up.

          Cotto gives a slight nod and then his trainer jumps in the ring, Then the ref stops it when he turns and sees the trainer fully in the ring.

          Look, I have utmost respect for Cotto, I really do. I think he's a classy guy, unlike his fans and showed alot of heart by taking this fight and fighing the way he did.

          BUT, the question was asked and I think that technically he did quit, sorry if that hurts your feelings. I still think Cotto is better than 90% of the welters out there.

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          • MaFu MoFo
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            #15
            Originally posted by oldgringo
            I saw no nodding as if to say "I quit" or explicit signs that Cotto said, "I quit". His corner stopped the fight...everything you said is conjecture.

            When the corner jumped up on the apron and waived the towel the fight was over genius...Cotto looked over at them when Evangelista got up there.



            If Cotto were going to quit he would have retired on his stool. He took the knee to buy time and his corner saw the writing on the wall.
            The video clip has the mexicnas commenting on how Margarito was losing and needed a KO. lol!!!

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            • Vladimir303
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              #16
              Originally Posted by dstew
              You're not seeing the conclusion in your own comments... he took knees... he had a look of resignation on his face... so you're admitting that he LOOKED like he WANTED to quit, and was ACTING like he wanted to quit... but he didn't quit?

              Has he come out and criticized his corner for stopping the fight?



              Let me explain this to you real quick.

              Just because a fighter is not protesting the corners decision, it doesn't mean that he QUIT. It means he had no problem with the stoppage because he knows he was being outgunned.


              Quittina means when you yourself give up before anybody the ref or your corner steps in.

              EXAMPLES: Acelino Freitas saying "no mas" vs Corrales

              Or recently, Hasim Rahman quitting because of a cutt under his eye even though the doctor didn't think it was that bad.

              Eric Morales winking at his corner in the third Pacquiao fight and not getting up during the count.

              Or just generally the ref asking a fighter "do you want to continue" and the figher knoding his head "NO".

              That's quitting..........THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

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              • dstew
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                #17
                Originally posted by vladimir303
                Let me explain this to you real quick.

                Just because a fighter is not protesting the corners decision, it doesn't mean that he QUIT. It means he had no problem with the stoppage because he knows he was being outgunned.


                Quittina means when you yourself give up before anybody the ref or your corner steps in.

                EXAMPLES: Acelino Freitas saying "no mas" vs Corrales

                Or recently, Hasim Rahman quitting because of a cutt under his eye even though the doctor didn't think it was that bad.

                Eric Morales winking at his corner in the third Pacquiao fight and not getting up during the count.

                Or just generally the ref asking a fighter "do you want to continue" and the figher knoding his head "NO".

                That's quitting..........THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
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                If Cotto wanted to keep fighting (i.e. NOT quit) he wouldn't have nodded at his corner when they waved the towel at him. Find the HBO PPV, they show a ringside angle where you get a close-up of Cotto's face and you can clearly see him give his corner the nod.

                I think he did the right thing for his health, his family, and his career; understand I am not criticizing him by saying he quit. But I feel that the evidence supports that he did not want to continue fighting and indicated as much to his corner.

                Also, notice he didn't even get hit the second time he took a knee, he was just submitting. He may have stood back up, but to deny that there was any quit in him is just stubborn.

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                • Undefeated
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                  #18
                  Cotto did not quit!

                  Taking a knee was smart, and also to prevent it from being stopped.

                  Then he would get up and take another knee and get up again, then when he looks to the corner, you see Evanalista Cotto by the ropes with the towel already, and basically Cotto said "**** it, they're there already, might as well stop it"

                  What's Cotto gonna do? Force his uncle not to stop the fight? He was already half way in the ring.

                  Ya people on this site are some ****s you know that? Its like its a 7th grade forum.

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                  • Vladimir303
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dstew
                    If Cotto wanted to keep fighting (i.e. NOT quit) he wouldn't have nodded at his corner when they waved the towel at him. Find the HBO PPV, .

                    DID NOT HAPPEN.

                    Move on time, you guys are killing me.

                    Trying to redefine what QUITTING is.......pathetic.

                    I gave you examples of real quitting, saw none of it from Cotto.

                    END OF STORY

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                    • Vladimir303
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Undefeated
                      Cotto did not quit!

                      Taking a knee was smart, and also to prevent it from being stopped.

                      Then he would get up and take another knee and get up again, then when he looks to the corner, you see Evanalista Cotto by the ropes with the towel already, and basically Cotto said "**** it, they're there already, might as well stop it".
                      EXACTLY HOW IT HAPPENED.

                      These cats are killing me with their opinions trying to define what quitting is.

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