Post Fight Analysis: Margarito vs Cotto

[poeticlsykuac]

I understand that you are not to bright, so let me provide you with some basic education.

Analyzing a fight and pointing out what Cotto did wrong is not making excuses.

Superficial facial injuries are NOT indicative of taking a large amount of punishment. It takes ONE punch to cause a cut. ONE punch to break a nose. ONE punch to bloody a lip.

No analyzing a fight is not only mentioning what one fighter did wrong and what the other fighter could have done is an analysis. You straight up made excuses, plain and simple. You didn't mention how Margarito used a body attack early on. You didn't mention how Margarito blocked his body very well knowing his chin would hold up, Cotto tried for the body there wasn't much there, Margarito blocked a fair amount to the body with his arms. Even Cotto's corner said watch for elbows in the third or so. Margarito beat the will out of Cotto get used to it. You gave no reasons why Margarito said he would lose the early rounds to the more talented Cotto, and would come on late becaue of his early body attack.

You didn't do a full analysis because you don't mention how Margarito disallowed him doing it with sustained body attack that eventually led to Cotto running like Camacho. You just made excuses plain and simple. An analysis shows both sides.

[!! Shawn]

No analyzing a fight is not only mentioning what one fighter did wrong and what the other fighter could have done is an analysis. You straight up made excuses, plain and simple. You didn't mention how Margarito used a body attack early on. You didn't mention how Margarito blocked his body very well knowing his chin would hold up, Cotto tried for the body there wasn't much there, Margarito blocked a fair amount to the body with his arms. Even Cotto's corner said watch for elbows in the third or so. Margarito beat the will out of Cotto get used to it. You gave no reasons why Margarito said he would lose the early rounds to the more talented Cotto, and would come on late becaue of his early body attack.

You didn't do a full analysis because you don't mention how Margarito disallowed him doing it with sustained body attack that eventually led to Cotto running like Camacho. You just made excuses plain and simple. An analysis shows both sides.

I stated that the turning point of the fight was Margarito's body attack, please learn to read. How you equate "watch for elbows" with Margarito is blocking body shots is beyond me. "Watch for elbows" mean... watch for elbows... Surprisingly, Cotto's people didn't want Cotto getting cut by an elbow.

When Cotto did throw to the body he landed. The problem is, he didn't throw to the body enough. Margarito showed absolutely ZERO defense. Any punches blocked were borderline accidental.

[poeticlsykuac]

I stated that the turning point of the fight was Margarito's body attack, please learn to read. How you equate "watch for elbows" with Margarito is blocking body shots is beyond me. "Watch for elbows" mean... watch for elbows... Surprisingly, Cotto's people didn't want Cotto getting cut by an elbow.

When Cotto did throw to the body he landed. The problem is, he didn't throw to the body enough. Margarito showed absolutely ZERO defense. Any punches blocked were borderline accidental.

I guess that is why even Steward said that Margarito's defense early on was better then he expected. So by your wording the fight changed in the first round when Cotto started absorbing body shots? It did, when Margarito landed that left uppercut to the body Cotto started lateral movement more often. Cotto did land a lot of amazing punches put on the best performance I have seen from him yet, and he got his ass kicked plain and simple

Again the analysis is Margarito beat Cotto's ass because he dished out a beating he could take but not vice versa. This is reminiscent of Chavez-Taylor, Cotto looked great landing the cleaner looking punches, but he couldn't stop the hard chinned monster from getting to him and eventually he caught up with him and broke is will.

Margarito started early took what he needed to and fought the fight he chose not vice versa. Cotto landed some narley power punches, the analysis is he couldn't do it. Cotto couldn't do it if it happened again because he couldn't keep this monster we call Margarito off of him I couldn't imagine it would change because Margarito will do the same thing. He will dig to the body and later in the fight it will slow Cotto down again and Margarito will take over.

[!! Shawn]

I guess that is why even Steward said that Margarito's defense early on was better then he expected. So by your wording the fight changed in the first round when Cotto started absorbing body shots? It did, when Margarito landed that left uppercut to the body Cotto started lateral movement more often. Cotto did land a lot of amazing punches put on the best performance I have seen from him yet, and he got his ass kicked plain and simple

Again the analysis is Margarito beat Cotto's ass because he dished out a beating he could take but not vice versa. This is reminiscent of Chavez-Taylor, Cotto looked great landing the cleaner looking punches, but he couldn't stop the hard chinned monster from getting to him and eventually he caught up with him and broke is will.

Margarito started early took what he needed to and fought the fight he chose not vice versa. Cotto landed some narley power punches, the analysis is he couldn't do it. Cotto couldn't do it if it happened again because he couldn't keep this monster we call Margarito off of him I couldn't imagine it would change because Margarito will do the same thing. He will dig to the body and later in the fight it will slow Cotto down again and Margarito will take over.

Trying to argue that Margarito's defense if good is an argument you cannot win.

[poeticlsykuac]

Trying to argue that Margarito's defense if good is an argument you cannot win.

Where did I say it was good? I said it was better than Cotto expected as well as the rest of us. Early in the fight most of the punches landed were not that clean. Cotto was taking a lot of punches to the body in the first 2 rounds I counted 30 body shots thrown(after re watching the beginning), not all of them were clean, however it was obvious they were stinging.

Cotto didn't want to stay inside and trade body shots because he wasn't confident he was getting the better end. Which as incredibly obvious at the end of the second round. When Margarito's beating to the body took effect, some stuff off was lost from Cotto's punches and speed. Toward the end Margarito felt undeterred by his weakening punches.

Cotto didn't want trade to the body he tried in the second, he went back to boxing because he couldn't hang in there long enough to break him down without getting hurt(see 2nd round, 3rd round Cotto had his bell rung as well).

Go rewatch the first few rounds, Cotto moves everytime Margarito lands a body shot, he was wincing from the shots. Cotto didn't fire back after body shots, why do you think he would not retaliate instead he just moved completely? He did a lot stick and moves which is not to be confused with the body shots that he took and had to move away from.

[KostyaTszyu44]

yeah shawn you are right, you cannot be a defensive boxer and look for a KO punch at the same time, it may work against a guy without a chin but against marg he was just wasting energy....cotto will achieve things again dont worry about that.....i would like to see him fight before the end of '08 against an alfonso gomez kinda fighter (but not him again lol) just to get his confidence etc back before chasing another big fight in '09. i think it wouldnt help him at all to take the rest of 08 off like most fighters do after a stoppage loss, stoppage loss+ring rust is a perfect formula to get KO'd again......

[KostyaTszyu44]

also as for margarito, i think its an every dog has its day kinda thing....i wouldnt be suprised if he is upset in his next outing....

[!! Shawn]

I guess that is why even Steward said that Margarito's defense early on was better then he expected. So by your wording the fight changed in the first round when Cotto started absorbing body shots? It did, when Margarito landed that left uppercut to the body Cotto started lateral movement more often. Cotto did land a lot of amazing punches put on the best performance I have seen from him yet, and he got his ass kicked plain and simple

Again the analysis is Margarito beat Cotto's ass because he dished out a beating he could take but not vice versa. This is reminiscent of Chavez-Taylor, Cotto looked great landing the cleaner looking punches, but he couldn't stop the hard chinned monster from getting to him and eventually he caught up with him and broke is will.

Margarito started early took what he needed to and fought the fight he chose not vice versa. Cotto landed some narley power punches, the analysis is he couldn't do it. Cotto couldn't do it if it happened again because he couldn't keep this monster we call Margarito off of him I couldn't imagine it would change because Margarito will do the same thing. He will dig to the body and later in the fight it will slow Cotto down again and Margarito will take over.

Margarito's body shots were indeed good, but had little effect in the early rounds. If you watch Cotto's previous fights against come forward fighters, his movement pattern is the same.

He uses what I call his 4 corners defense every time. He goes to the middle of the ropes, covers up, blocks a few punches, throws a flurry and skips out to the left in a southpaw stance over to the middle of the next rope and repeats.

Margarito's body work really started to work in the 7th rounds. That is when he started throwing lefts to the body. That was the first time I really saw a wince from Cotto. That is also when Margarito really started having success.

After watching the fight again, I would also like to say that Kenny Bayless should be ashamed with his performance.

The amount of low blows Margarito was allowed to land without warning appalling. He warned Margarito 3 times and then just gave up.

I counted at least 7 uppercuts below the belt line that landed hard on the groin of Cotto, and countless more low blows to the hips.

[poeticlsykuac]

Margarito's body shots were indeed good, but had little effect in the early rounds. If you watch Cotto's previous fights against come forward fighters, his movement pattern is the same.

He uses what I call his 4 corners defense every time. He goes to the middle of the ropes, covers up, blocks a few punches, throws a flurry and skips out to the left in a southpaw stance over to the middle of the next rope and repeats.

Margarito's body work really started to work in the 7th rounds. That is when he started throwing lefts to the body. That was the first time I really saw a wince from Cotto. That is also when Margarito really started having success.

After watching the fight again, I would also like to say that Kenny Bayless should be ashamed with his performance.

The amount of low blows Margarito was allowed to land without warning appalling. He warned Margarito 3 times and then just gave up.

I counted at least 7 uppercuts below the belt line that landed hard on the groin of Cotto, and countless more low blows to the hips.

Your just creating more excuse Bayless? Cotto is a low blow addict. Why didn't he retaliate? Because he was scared he was wincing in the second, those shots were hurting him he was shifting his blocking and circling away from his left hook. Towards what most would say is Margarito's harder punch in the straight right. He was going away from his power punch, bouncing away from his best punch to avoid a body shot it is wide open man. Why didn't he move away from Margarito's right instead which would put him in better location to use his signature left hook?

Margarito went away from body punches for a while because of Bayless as well as because Cotto protecting his body better. Give credit where credit is due. Step back and realize all you seem to be looking for is a reason why Cotto lost(what he or a ref didn't do), not what Margarito did and continued to do.

Margarito did his job, Cotto could not because Margarito executed the exact plan he had formed before entering the ring. Break down the body early, be relentless throw lots of punches and come on late to start busting him up and finishing him off. It was pretty obvious who would win the fight by the sixth, not the boxing match but the fight. Cotto was a great boxer put on an amazing performance but he got his ass kicked.

[Corizz]

Body shots started to hurt him in the 2nd round. Look at about 1:49 in the first round. He blasted him with a body shot that physically HURT Cotto. I think after that. Cotto said i cant get in the body because i cannot trade with him like that.

Tony did the smart thing early in the fight he went for the body even if it meant him getting hit in the face. Margarito knew what he was doing the whole fight. IT was all a matter of if Cotto can take it and be effective in the later rounds. He couldn't. Cotto didn't go to the body because he COULDN'T.

Strong chin, will and better conditioning won this fight for Margarito. Cotto is an excellent boxer, he fought to the best of his abilties, it just was not enough.