Post Fight Analysis: Margarito vs Cotto

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  • JoartCC
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    #41
    Originally posted by !! Shawn
    This is also an absolute disaster for boxing.
    Only idiots like you will claim that.

    Fact is you're just sourgraping.

    Sore loser.

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    • We want Floyd
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      #42
      Originally posted by RunW/Knives
      lol five paragraphs worth of ****ing blah blah.

      You're a moron.
      Hey every ugly dog has its day, and that very ugly dog is you and your boy Margarita. So jack off to this victory, 'cause Margarita ain't gonna be a successful champ . He lost 5 times already, he has finally gotten his 15minutes of fame, pretty soon it's time for him to turn back to a frog.

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      • Corizz
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        #43
        Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
        Hey every ugly dog has its day, and that very ugly dog is you and your boy Margarita. So jack off to this victory, 'cause Margarita ain't gonna be a successful champ . He lost 5 times already, he has finally gotten his 15minutes of fame, pretty soon it's time for him to turn back to a frog.
        I am pretty sure they said he has only lost 1 fight in the last 11 years, he's 30 years old. So that means he lost what 3-4 fights at or before the age of 19 years old. He went pro at what 16? so yeah, from 16-19 years old he lost a few fights to guys in their mid 20's. Yeah, he sucks.
        Last edited by Corizz; 07-27-2008, 04:48 AM.

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        • Run
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          #44
          I'm as happy right now as I was hours ago. Man, you realize that now we have a WW king who would literally kill himself for fans?

          Gatti was great and all, Yikes limited and overrated.



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          • poeticlsykuac
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            #45
            Originally posted by RunW/Knives
            I'm as happy right now as I was hours ago. Man, you realize that now we have a WW king who would literally kill himself for fans?

            Gatti was great and all, Yikes limited and overrated.
            Pound for pound I'd say Gatti had far more pop, problem is in his very short prime, he never came prepared for the fight, but not the beard to go with his style. His heart was amazing, his skill under rated IMO, it is hard to tell how good he could have been if he would have took care of himself and prepared properly early in his career avoiding some of the serious damage he took. Gatti had one puncher power, Margarito is an accumulation puncher.

            Margarito is also a far more active fighter who takes no rest break.

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              #46
              Originally posted by !! Shawn
              First off, I would like to congratulate both fighters on a great fight.

              From the opening round, I was confident this fight was going to unfold exactly as I expected. Miguel was going to work his four corners defense, and Margarito was going to be massively outclassed and brutalized.

              Needless to say, I was right.

              However, what I did not expect was for Miguel Cotto to make two fatal mistakes.

              1) Neglecting body work.
              2) Trying to knock Antonio Margarito out.

              I was astonished! Miguel Cotto of all people should know the importance of body work. Infact, the momentum of the fight changed in the middle rounds when Antonio Margarito started to invest in a solid body attack.

              By neglecting to invest in a solid attack to the body, Miguel Cotto did not tax Margarito's stamina, and did not limit his punch output in the later rounds.

              Boxing 101 tells us that if you are on the ropes and your opponent is throwing punches, you go to the body. It brings down your opponents hands, and stops the barrage. Miguel Cotto instead traded upstairs, which brings us to our next critical error on the part of Miguel Cotto.

              Miguel Cotto tried to knock Antonio Margarito out. The one fact that was not disputed in the lead up to this fight was Antonio Margarito's chin. Unloading powerful punches on the chin of Margarito is simply wasting your energy.

              This is what Miguel Cotto did. Every punch was thrown with malice and knockout written all over it. Round after round, Miguel Cotto WASTED his energy throwing HARD punches at Margarito's chin.

              There IS a reason why classically boxers are not punchers. It is not that they cannot punch, it is that in order to have the energy box and stay away for 12 rounds, you cannot waste your energy trying to knock your opponent out.

              Miguel fell into this trap. He tried to knock Margarito out while boxing. The result? Cotto ran out of energy in the later rounds.

              I do not fell that Cotto running out of energy had much if anything to do with Margarito's work rate as Cotto appeared relaxed, and expended very little energy defending against the onslaught. He simply punched himself out.

              Had Miguel invested his energy in a body attack, I feel the fight would have taken a dramatically different path.

              While Margarito won, and I give him all the credit in the world, he showed why he will never be able to beat Paul Williams.

              Round after rounds Margarito did the same thing. Round after rounds Cotto brutally beat him. Round after round, Margarito failed to adapt. Against a fighter like Paul Williams who can sustain his work rate for all 12 rounds, Margarito has no answers. He does not adapt, and is inherently unskilled.

              With that said. Margarito is one ****ing tough son of a *****. A true WARRIOR. Nobody is going to knock him out, and anyone that tries is going to lose.

              In order to beat Margarito, you have to take a page out of the book of Paul Williams. Pity Pat your way to victory.

              he wasn't trying to ko him, he was trying to outbox him. it worked... for a while. cotto was throwing punches off of his back foot/going backwards all night long. boxing 101: you dont have much power going backwards. are you sure you watched this fight?????

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              • Run
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                #47
                Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
                Pound for pound I'd say Gatti had far more pop, problem is in his very short prime, he never came prepared for the fight, but not the beard to go with his style. His heart was amazing, his skill under rated IMO, it is hard to tell how good he could have been if he would have took care of himself and prepared properly early in his career avoiding some of the serious damage he took. Gatti had one puncher power, Margarito is an accumulation puncher.

                Margarito is also a far more active fighter who takes no rest break.
                Yeah Gatti was a bigger puncher with 1 punch.

                Oh yeah, sure I mean Gatti was an exciting legend type guy and some of his bouts were memorable, but look at class here man.

                Tony just lived Gatti's career times 1 million tonight. Gatti's biggest win (I'd say probably over Leija) doesn't compare to this ****.

                And it was tough, yet routine for Margarito.

                He showed how good he is as a fighter to the people who didn't know. Now they know, no more secrets.



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                • !! Shawn
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by RunW/Knives
                  Yeah Gatti was a bigger puncher with 1 punch.

                  Oh yeah, sure I mean Gatti was an exciting legend type guy and some of his bouts were memorable, but look at class here man.

                  Tony just lived Gatti's career times 1 million tonight. Gatti's biggest win (I'd say probably over Leija) doesn't compare to this ****.

                  And it was tough, yet routine for Margarito.

                  He showed how good he is as a fighter to the people who didn't know. Now they know, no more secrets.
                  Just and FYI, Gatti had a sibilance of skill. Margarito does not.

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                  • TEXSTRO
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                    #49
                    Why is everyone making excuses for cotto?????He lost got TKO'd.....Then for the cotto nuthuggers to say he was brutally beating down margarito...Did you see cottos face and all the blood he spit out at the end... He was eat uppercuts like buffet. I think he took three in row damn..When have you ever seen cottos face like that??? Point Blank He ****ING LOST thats it coulda should woulda boo hoo.....It was a war.....Margarito won..I think yall are in denial because yall talked so much **** about Marg aint worth a **** this and that and now cottos record has a loss...Your eating your words and still cant realize how much cotto was hyped by arum and nuthuggers....You should give credit where credit is due..Cottos knows what it takes to win..He didnt execute because he couldnt...That bum you call marg made sure of that....Im not a marg nuthugger but damn I get tired of reading all the denial threads.....COTTO LOST gather your pride and wait for the next fight.....

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                    • !! Shawn
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by TEXSTRO
                      Why is everyone making excuses for cotto?????He lost got TKO'd.....Then for the cotto nuthuggers to say he was brutally beating down margarito...Did you see cottos face and all the blood he spit out at the end... He was eat uppercuts like buffet. I think he took three in row damn..When have you ever seen cottos face like that??? Point Blank He ****ING LOST thats it coulda should woulda boo hoo.....It was a war.....Margarito won..I think yall are in denial because yall talked so much **** about Marg aint worth a **** this and that and now cottos record has a loss...Your eating your words and still cant realize how much cotto was hyped by arum and nuthuggers....You should give credit where credit is due..Cottos knows what it takes to win..He didnt execute because he couldnt...That bum you call marg made sure of that....Im not a marg nuthugger but damn I get tired of reading all the denial threads.....COTTO LOST gather your pride and wait for the next fight.....
                      I understand that you are not to bright, so let me provide you with some basic education.

                      Analyzing a fight and pointing out what Cotto did wrong is not making excuses.

                      Superficial facial injuries are NOT indicative of taking a large amount of punishment. It takes ONE punch to cause a cut. ONE punch to break a nose. ONE punch to bloody a lip.

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