Hopkins, Calzaghe, Abraham, Dawson...can Pav lick beat all 3?

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  • S.G.
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    #11
    Hopkins: probably, but only because of Hopkins' age. even Hopkins of 2-3 years ago vs. today's Pavlik would result in Hopkins totally humiliating Pavlik

    Calzaghe: highly unlikely, but possible due to Joe's age (Joe's slightly lost his edge over recent years imo). then again Calzaghe could completely school him

    Abraham: i think Pavlik would deal with Abraham, but not easily. be very interesting if Abraham managed to hit him with some big combos too

    Dawson: Dawson outboxes him to a points victory... way too slick

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    • boxaholic
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      #12
      RJJ vs Hopkins would be a better fight so would Calzaghe vs Pavlik. It sucks its the other way around.

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      • Dan...
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        #13
        I would pick Pavlik to win fairly close decisions over Hopkins and Abraham, lose a reasonably comfortable decision to Calzageh and have a very tough time with Dawson.

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        • J_CON
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          #14
          pavlik pounds them all

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          • Boofdatruth
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            #15
            Originally posted by S.G.
            Hopkins: probably, but only because of Hopkins' age. even Hopkins of 2-3 years ago vs. today's Pavlik would result in Hopkins totally humiliating Pavlik

            Calzaghe: highly unlikely, but possible due to Joe's age (Joe's slightly lost his edge over recent years imo). then again Calzaghe could completely school him

            Abraham: i think Pavlik would deal with Abraham, but not easily. be very interesting if Abraham managed to hit him with some big combos too

            Dawson: Dawson outboxes him to a points victory... way too slick
            In so many words, I can agree with this. I'd pick AA to ko PAv. PAv is not an elite fighter yet. Good post.

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            • Boofdatruth
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              #16
              Originally posted by J_CON
              pavlik pounds them all
              PAv might get beat by them all. AA is going to knock his block off.

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              • MELLY-MEL...
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                #17
                Originally posted by danc1984
                I would pick Pavlik to win fairly close decisions over Hopkins and Abraham, lose a reasonably comfortable decision to Calzageh and have a very tough time with Dawson.
                good post!!!!!!!!! agreed.

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                • Johnny Rebel
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by abadger
                  A tough one for him for sure, we all know what Hopkins can do, but I just wonder how Hopkins could possibly get a decision over someone like Pavlik, unless he is really able to make Pavlik cautious, which is possible.
                  I want to see Pavlik KO Hopkins, but if JC had a hard time landing on Hop I cant see a predictable, slower fighter having an easy time landing, especially since Hop still has good speed in his 1 punch counter right. Look what Hop did to Tarver and Winky, I don't see Pavlik having much more success, unless there's a strict referee who stops Hop from holding and fouling.

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                  • abadger
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
                    I want to see Pavlik KO Hopkins, but if JC had a hard time landing on Hop I cant see a predictable, slower fighter having an easy time landing, especially since Hop still has good speed in his 1 punch counter right. Look what Hop did to Tarver and Winky, I don't see Pavlik having much more success, unless there's a strict referee who stops Hop from holding and fouling.
                    Yes! I want Pavlik to be as hyped as possible when/ if he fights Joe so if he KOs Hopkins I would love it, and it would all but guarantee a Calzaghe fight.

                    However, you make some good points about Hopkins and I definitely think Hopkins has a chance to beat Pavlik. Perhaps he is a little underrated since losing to Joe. The advantage Kelly has over Winky and Tarver though is workrate, which gives him a better chance than either of those two IMO, because workrate is basically what Hopkins loses to.

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                    • -Swizzy-
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Queen_Leia
                      Is he that skilled to beat all 4 of these guys...I mean what your take on Kelly matchup with these 4 elite fighters
                      would beat hops by 12 round sweep decision
                      would beat calzaghe by tko.
                      would beat abraham by close decision
                      would beat dawson by tko.

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