ESPN's Dan Rafael Top 20 P4P List

[pesticid]

Nobody is dis*****g JMM's position. Because he has "lost pretty" to the #1 guy. Well, Shane fought damn near even with Cotto. So, wouldn't he deserve a strong ranking as well?

Who has marquez beat? who has marquez dominated?

Marquez is arguably undefeated and there is no shame losing pretty to the
p4p champ.

I understand you hate Mexicans but Marquez p4p is and has been the best offensive fighter in boxing. His arsenal and creativity when it comes to offense are unmatched.

[Clegg]

Nah, I posted on WladOwns/Tunney's topic first. But realized you made yours first, I think.

But that one turned into a Wlad thread and guess who arrived in full Eastern european force on that thread.
No not CorrieSandersOwns or the Black Tunney but their evil dopplegangers.

Lol are there really posters called that? If not I just had an idea for an alt...

[Left Hook Tua]

Lol are there really posters called that? If not I just had an idea for an alt...

i tried Tunney<3WladOwns but the mods wouldn't let me open it.......

[Clegg]

i tried Tunney<3WladOwns but the mods wouldn't let me open it.......

I was thinking of creating VitaliOwns, and then everytime Vitali gets injured posting about how his injuries are p4p the best in boxing...

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Marquez is arguably undefeated and there is no shame losing pretty to the
p4p champ.

I understand you hate Mexicans but Marquez p4p is and has been the best offensive fighter in boxing. His arsenal and creativity when it comes to offense are unmatched.

You are missing the point. You can't give marquez points for "losing pretty" and not give Shane the same points. i'm being objective. Because i don't even like that cheating ***** mosley.

[pesticid]

You are missing the point. You can't give marquez points for "losing pretty" and not give Shane the same points. i'm being objective. Because i don't even like that cheating ***** mosley.

Shane won 4 or 5 rounds in that fight.
Marquez won 6 or 7.
Marquez was the champ, Shane was not.
Pacman is higher in the p4p list than Cotto.

I think Shane did good against Cotto not cause of Shane but because of Cotto. I thought Cotto thought that he had it in the bag and he wasn't going to put Mosley away so he cruised.

[Fox McCloud]

But that was a WAY past peak MAB, so if that's his best win....

People didn't seem to get the message that MAB was past it until after the JMM fight for some reason though. To be honest, I thought MAB looked pretty good against JMM, but it seems I'm alone in that respect.

The disrespect to Casamayor is amazing.

BTW, the odds are majorly in favor for JMM. And the presser was brief and respectful.

I think Casamayor is done... seriously.

He lost like every round to the uncoordinated unknown Santa Cruz, and then was losing a split decision at the time of the stoppage to the reborn Arturo Gatti in the form of Michael Katsidis.

That's not a good sign for him.

[Left Hook Tua]

I was thinking of creating VitaliOwns, and then everytime Vitali gets injured posting about how his injuries are p4p the best in boxing...

lol

do it , clegg.

it'd be hilarious.

i can see your first post already when vitali pulls out of the peter fight.

[BattlingNelson]

they went on this thread and read it. posted 1 reply and made their own threads about the exact same subject. they say a bunch of ****** things and get 50 replies in 10 minutes and no one even looks at mine! :-(

i don't even know if they even bothered to check out the real list on espn.....

that's why i told wladowns i made the list up. i bet you 50/50 he jumped on espn to check if i was lying or not! he he he

Viva was first:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195750

Then Melly-mel:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195794

[Left Hook Tua]

Viva was first:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195750

Then Melly-mel:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=195794

i was talking about wladowns.

i didn't even see viva's and melly-mel's obviously.