ESPN's Dan Rafael Top 20 P4P List

[Fox McCloud]

Do you think that Hatton or Kessler are better fighters - TODAY - than Shane Mosley?

I think Kessler is, but his resume isn't stellar. Beyer is good, Mundine is good... that's about it.

I also think Hatton's resume is wildly overrated, just like Mosley's.

An old Tszyu, and a dead man named Castillo does not give you the credentials to be a P4P elite, even if you are undefeated, or down one loss, like he is now.

[Left Hook Tua]

Nah, I posted on Tunney's topic first. But realized you made yours first, I think.

But that one turned into a Wlad thread and guess who arrived in that thread.
No not CorrieSandersOwns or the Black Tunney but their evil dopplegangers.

they went on this thread and read it. posted 1 reply and made their own threads about the exact same subject. they say a bunch of ****** things and get 50 replies in 10 minutes and no one even looks at mine! :-(

i don't even know if they even bothered to check out the real list on espn.....

that's why i told wladowns i made the list up. i bet you 50/50 he jumped on espn to check if i was lying or not! he he he

[Guest]

I think Kessler is, but his resume isn't stellar. Beyer is good, Mundine is good... that's about it.

I also think Hatton's resume is wildly overrated, just like Mosley's.

An old Tszyu, and a dead man named Castillo does not give you the credentials to be a P4P elite, even if you are undefeated, or down one loss, like he is now.

Jermaine Dye shoulda made the all-star team. What kinda **** is that?

[Me La Pelan]

All around it's alright at best. Good thread though LEFTY, I can't wait to see what some of these clowns have to say.LOL

[bsrizpac]

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Kelly Pavlik
7. Israel Vazquez
8. Rafael Marquez
9. Cristian Mijares
10. Ivan Calderon
11. Shane Mosley
12. Oscar De La Hoya
13. Ricky Hatton
14. Jermain Taylor
15. Chris John
16. Antonio Margarito
17. Joan Guzman
18. Nate Campbell
19. Juan Diaz
20. Fernando Montiel

Agree? Discuss.

Fatty needs a diet.

[nnamme]

Bernard Hopkins at #5? Man, how many times does this guy fight in one year? Where is Abraham? How about Wladimir?

[bsrizpac]

Bernard Hopkins at #5? Man, how many times does this guy fight in one year? Where is Abraham? How about Wladimir?

[Left Hook Tua]

Fatty needs a diet.

fatty only watches las vegas fights i think.

bernard 5? oscar12? shane 11?

somebody doesn't want to lose his invitations to golden boy promotions banquets and buffets...........

[bsrizpac]

fatty only watches las vegas fights i think.

bernard 5? oscar12? shane 11?

somebody doesn't want to lose his invitations to golden boy promotions banquets and buffets...........

Isn't Bernard basically retired?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Nobody is dis*****g JMM's position. Because he has "lost pretty" to the #1 guy. Well, Shane fought damn near even with Cotto. So, wouldn't he deserve a strong ranking as well?

Who has marquez beat? who has marquez dominated?