ESPN's Dan Rafael Top 20 P4P List

[Left Hook Tua]

Isn't Bernard basically retired?

practically.

dan is dumb.

you know he had calzaghe #1 and manny #2.

when he saw the diaz fight he was like , "ESPN like some others had Joe over Manny as #1 p4p , ESPN fight have to reassess that."

dumb fat ****.

he's in charge of ESPN's top 10 p4p.

why not just say i made a mistake and i'm gonna change it to manny #1?

fat ass.

his p4p list is bad.

[Fox McCloud]

Nobody is dis*****g JMM's position. Because he has "lost pretty" to the #1 guy. Well, Shane fought damn near even with Cotto. So, wouldn't he deserve a strong ranking as well?

Who has marquez beat? who has marquez dominated?

Marco Antonio Barrera.

Really, that was his fight 2 fights before losing pretty to the Pacsterbater.

[bsrizpac]

practically.

dan is dumb.

you know he had calzaghe #1 and manny #2.

when he saw the diaz fight he was like , "ESPN like some others had Joe over Manny as #1 p4p , ESPN fight have to reassess that."

dumb fat ****.

he's in charge of ESPN's top 10 p4p.

why not just say i made a mistake and i'm gonna change it to manny #1?

fat ass.

his p4p list is bad.

He also talked mad **** about Roy saying he could never beat Ruiz. Then never retracted and said Ruiz was a bum.

HAHAHAA.

[Left Hook Tua]

Nobody is dis*****g JMM's position. Because he has "lost pretty" to the #1 guy. Well, Shane fought damn near even with Cotto. So, wouldn't he deserve a strong ranking as well?

Who has marquez beat? who has marquez dominated?

i think marquez is up there to make up for manny.

he had manny #2 behind joe because he said he felt juan manuel beat manny.

when he saw the diaz fight he realized he ****ed up having manny #2 so he bumped manny to #1 and had to bump juan manuel up.

he had joe #1 before so to excuse that he put bernard high on the list still.

his list is dumb.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Marco Antonio Barrera.

Really, that was his fight 2 fights before losing pretty to the Pacsterbater.

But that was a WAY past peak MAB, so if that's his best win....

[Puya]

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Kelly Pavlik
7. Israel Vazquez
8. Rafael Marquez
9. Cristian Mijares
10. Ivan Calderon
11. Shane Mosley
12. Oscar De La Hoya
13. Ricky Hatton
14. Jermain Taylor
15. Chris John
16. Antonio Margarito
17. Joan Guzman
18. Nate Campbell
19. Juan Diaz
20. Fernando Montiel

Agree? Discuss.

Haven't he ever heard of Solis? This is coming from a Puerto Rican

[Clegg]

I would have Cotto above JMM. Marquez did push Pac close and is a very good fighter, but he does tend to look bad against certain styles and I didn't think he was that impressive vs Barrera. I think he'll probably beat Casamayor in a boring, close decision, and everyone will suddenly lower their opinion of him. One of those 'only as good as your last fight' kind of things.

I would have Pavlik and Hopkins lower. P4P I think Guzman would beat both. I would also have Paul Williams about 10th or so, and Wlad would be in my top 20. I know everyone hates the guy but I would have Tarver in there too...

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Kelly Pavlik
7. Israel Vazquez
8. Rafael Marquez
9. Cristian Mijares
10. Ivan Calderon
11. Shane Mosley
12. Oscar De La Hoya
13. Ricky Hatton
14. Jermain Taylor
15. Chris John
16. Antonio Margarito
17. Joan Guzman
18. Nate Campbell
19. Juan Diaz
20. Fernando Montiel

Agree? Discuss.

The disrespect to Casamayor is amazing.

BTW, the odds are majorly in favor for JMM. And the presser was brief and respectful.

[Me La Pelan]

The disrespect to Casamayor is amazing.

BTW, the odds are majorly in favor for JMM. And the presser was brief and respectful.

I thought the odds were lob sided!!!

[Left Hook Tua]

The disrespect to Casamayor is amazing.

BTW, the odds are majorly in favor for JMM. And the presser was brief and respectful.

what do you expect? he has nate and juan diaz #18 and #19.

he must not like 135. he loves 130 though......