Is Pavlik ducking Abraham?

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  • slicksouthpaw16
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    #21
    Abraham/Pavlik would be for a title unification and if Abraham were to refuse to fight Raul Marquez(His madotory) then he would be stripped of his belt. Then how would he have an IBF belt to unify with and why would Pavlik want to fight him? I could never imagine Pavlik ducking anyone as well. Hes just not the type to do it.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #22
      Originally posted by johnm
      The same way Calzaghe could be ducking Pavlik, with all those past prime, 40 something's to take care of.
      Calzaghe's already crushed one young American Dream.

      It'd be a shame for him to do it to another.

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      • The Hammer
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        #23
        If both win their fights in early fall, then Pavlik and Abraham will fight in February.

        Kelly is not ducking anyone.

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          #24
          Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
          Abraham/Pavlik would be for a title unification and if Abraham were to refuse to fight Raul Marquez(His madotory) then he would be stripped of his belt. Then how would he have an IBF belt to unify with and why would Pavlik want to fight him? I could never imagine Pavlik ducking anyone as well. Hes just not the type to do it.
          Who the **** cares about belts? Pavlik and Abraham are the two best middleweights in the world.

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          • Sir_Joe
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            #25
            In all honesty I wouldn't be surprised if Williams beat Pavlik, Floyd Mayweather would beat Pavlik and I'd be willing to bet on it.

            I just looked at Pavlik's resume and virtually laughed about how overrated he has become, I see a lot of parallels between his resume and Jeff Lacy's.

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              #26
              Originally posted by BatTheMan
              When you call the retirement of a 36 year old undefeated champion a duck when he doesn't fight a champion in a lower weightclass, what would you call the retirement of 35 year old HW champ before rematching a fighter he defeated in the most controversial of fashions? (Lennox).
              A duck. There.

              The difference is though, Lewis had a GREAT resume, whereas my problem with Joe and his fans are when they proclaim him a legend, when his resume barely stands up to scrutiny. If he wants a legacy, then stop chasing the easy fight and easy money.

              Lewis had nothing more to prove. Joe has plenty to ****ing prove to a great many of us. Don't ***** out after spending 15 years in a comfort zone. If you want to be called great, show us.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Sir_Joe
                In all honesty I wouldn't be surprised if Williams beat Pavlik, Floyd Mayweather would beat Pavlik and I'd be willing to bet on it.

                I just looked at Pavlik's resume and virtually laughed about how overrated he has become, I see a lot of parallels between his resume and Jeff Lacy's.
                Exactly what Ive been saying. The one difference seems to be Jermain Taylor. Pavlik was almost KOed in the first fight and barely won the 2nd (I scored it for Jermain on first viewing).

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                • deanrw
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                  #28
                  I doubt Abraham or Pavlik would duck anyone. Abraham has been sheltered but I don't think it was his own doing. They seem to be willing to let him do his thing now, which is a good thing.

                  They only way this fight will not happen is if Abraham's camp insist the fight takes place in Germany. I guarantee Pavlik's camp will not agree to it for obvious reasons.

                  Abraham has crossed the Atlantic already so I see the fight happening, but not until well into 2009. They should televise his Mandatory over here to help build interest in the fight. HBO should be lending a helping hand in that respect.

                  Both guys will need to build up their resume more to make the fight financially feasible, as we know Arum will not hand out 10's of millions of dollars for something he will lose money on, and both camps will want huge dollars.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Sir_Joe
                    In all honesty I wouldn't be surprised if Williams beat Pavlik, Floyd Mayweather would beat Pavlik and I'd be willing to bet on it.

                    I just looked at Pavlik's resume and virtually laughed about how overrated he has become, I see a lot of parallels between his resume and Jeff Lacy's.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Calzaghe's already crushed one young American Dream.

                      It'd be a shame for him to do it to another.

                      That's right, when all else fails, run right back to the Lacy fight. Today's Calzaghe isn't the same guy that beat up on Lacy. And Lacy is for... ****ing... sure no Pavlik.

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