Substitute Soto with Urbano Antillon at lightweight

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  • MaYaN_SuN
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    #51
    Originally posted by mspiegelo
    the line is about 500 fighters long, get in the back urbano...
    Thats 500 fighters dyin to get a piece, lol they aint ******, everyones seen the Marquez fights. They all want the cash and want to be the next one to expose Paq lol.

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    • MaYaN_SuN
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      #52
      Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
      It doesn't matter how you wanna flip it, spin it, blah, blah. You talk about Soto not being a natural 135lber, well, neither is PAC, in fact PAC wasn't even a natural bantam, feather, super-feather, and now fighting at 135lbs.

      PAC was always at a disadvantage if you just wanna talk about weight! Remember, the man started at 106lbs and now fighting at 135lbs That's a friggin 29lb jump! And your ******n and cryin' about Soto having to move up a measly 5lbs(lmao). Soto, will have the size advantage, if and when he faces PAC.

      You're also whinin' about Soto being moved up too soon to 135lbs. well, how many times has PAC fought at 135lbs? Once!

      You say that PAC hasn't fought a legit lightweight bout, then what do you call facing D. Diaz? Anyway, this Urbano guy, i've seen him fight once(against B.PAC), so what is so impressive about Antillon? ****, your talkin' Antillon, and how your in the opinion of PAC being scared, when the PAC camp has talked about facing Hatton, a bigger fighter than that garbage you call Urbano, just what kind of parents would name their kid, Urbano, sounds like the garbage collector that collects my trash on Wednesdays(lmao)
      Paq was molded into 135, lol dude was a skinny lil musrhoom head when he first showed up. But they've been taxin his body and buildin him up to this point. Now granted he makes a weak lightweight in a already weak division, but to bait Soto to come up when he hasn't had the same luxury of bein built into a lightweight.....lol I mean what kind of lame ass **** is that? I mean with Roach who got paid to get the **** kicked out of him for a living and Flips scared ****less to see Paq lose, it's not really a surprise they keep takin all these lil shortcuts.

      But **** that, Soto has no business movin up. He has a chance to solidify himself at 130 for a fight with Gamboa. Dude shouldn't take the bait and just hope all goes well for him come fight night.

      I mean even if Soto beats Paq, lol whats he suppose to do next? Take Peterson and Antillon lmao???? Or pull a Manny P. and just get handed the weaker lightweights? lol Like Soto would even be able to get away with that, people would be down his kneck and force him in with some heavy hitters.

      **** all that, Humberto should wait for Gamboa...wich would be a LEGITIMATE superfeatherweight fight.

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      • BadNewz
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        #53
        I doubt Antillon is any better than Valero or Soto. All those guys are pretty much the same. The only ones who stand out from the LW/JLW pack are Campbell and Guzman, maybe Casamayor on a good day.

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        • MaYaN_SuN
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          #54
          Originally posted by BadNewz
          I doubt Antillon is any better than Valero or Soto. All those guys are pretty much the same. The only ones who stand out from the LW/JLW pack are Campbell and Guzman, maybe Casamayor on a good day.
          You gotta get your eyes out of your ass. Either that or don't start **** off by sayin you doubt then goin straight to assumin **** lmao. Thats basically like a blind guess...


          Antillon is a legitmate lightweight, he's way to ****in big for Soto. He'd walk Soto down the same way he walked Bobby down. Now Valero has had problems makin superfeather, so he might actually end up physically being a lightweigt in the long run.

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          • slicksouthpaw16
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            #55
            Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
            [B][I]lol You actually typed this right?

            Then yes, you are a ****in moron. I don't see why you're gettin all offended, lol I mean it's not like you're the first ****in idiot on planet earth. Matter of fact I think you moe moe's actually out number the average person. It's not like you're alone, it's not like you're the biggest ****in idiot either. lol You know?
            LOL who is getting offended? I just find it funny that a bias fan is actually making a case for his favorite fighter getting a shot at the pound for pound best fighter in the world right now when he hasn't beaten anyone with a name. Soto has beaten some very good fighters throughout his career and have always fought the best fighters out there no matter what. You have to work for what you get and Antillion hasn't done anything. Think about it, who is this guy? Soto has actually worked his way to the top the hard way. There is just so many things that wrong here that i can do nothing but laugh


            lol But let me get this right, beatin the snot out of some Japanese nobodies that no one even knows or heard of, means more then beatin actuall gate keepers and skilled guys at lightweight? Granted, there has been no title fights for Antillon. But if he could beast on some no-name asians for some belts THENNN it would be ok by you if he were to face Manny? lol Because beating a bunch of no-name asians just holds more weight then smashin through lightweights here in the states? Is that right? lol Thats basically what youre sayin, right chief? Thats what you're sayin. Is that what you're implyin champ?
            Are we questioning Pacquaio's resume now? I don't understand where you are going with this part.
            Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 07-14-2008, 06:26 AM.

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            • MaYaN_SuN
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              #56
              Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
              LOL who is getting offended? I just find it funny that a bias fan is actually making a case for his favorite fighter getting a shot at the pound for pound best fighter in the world right now when he hasn't beaten anyone with a name. Soto has beaten some very good fighters throughout his career and have always fought the best fighters out there no matter what. You have to work for what you get and Antillion hasn't done anything. Think about it, who is this guy? Soto has actually worked his way to the top the hard way. There is just so many things that wrong here that i can do nothing but laugh
              lol Unless you're ****in blind, I'm makin a case that Antillon who is an actual lightweight, makes more sense to fight Manny then baitin some smaller fighter to come up when that same fighter had no intentions to come up in weight to begin with. Especially if they want a Mexican for Manny at lightweight. ****, Antillons right there. He needs another victim, Manny needs a real fight.

              But not only are you ****in ******ed, but you can't read? Or does being ******ed mean you generally can't read? I don't know...I didn't go to "how to idetinfy the complete ****** school." I don't know if ******s can read or not, I mean you're carryin on a conversation with words, so I guess that means yes, moe moe's CAN read. They just can't comprehend and are prone to sayin silly ******ed **** like this..

              "Antillion was being out hustled by Bobby Pacquaio when Bobby had the heart the fight in that first round. Humberto Soto and Manny Pacquaio both would beat him covicingly IMO. I didn't really see any star quality in him. I seen a fighter that could make good exciting fights with fighters at the top of the division, but thats pretty much it."

              lol Just out of curiosity, were you ****in your helmet against the wall and droolin all over yourself when you typed that? lol Pfff, figures, typical ******. I wouldn't call you a ****** to your face or anything though, god knows youre all big and strong. Like when you ******s get ******-angry and muster the strength of guerillas an ****. I think god gave you people super ******-strength to make up for your mental handicaps. It's pretty ****in interesting if you think about it. I mean I'd love to see one of you silly dumb bastards play linebacker. You know? Just seein one of you out there goin ******-crazy on the football field? That would be awesome.



              Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
              Are we questioning Pacquaio's resume now? I don't understand where you are going with this part.

              "Da Durrrrrrr, are you talkin about Paqiaow's resume?" - You

              Lmao, no. No, I am not talkin about Paq's resume. ****in moron lmao.

              I'm talkin about Valero's time spent beatin on no name Japanese kids, when Antillon [whos and actual lightweight btw] has been beatin on strong thorough lightweights here in the states on his way to building his name. Thats what I was talkin about.

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              • slicksouthpaw16
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                #57
                Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
                lol Unless you're ****in blind, I'm makin a case that Antillon who is an actual lightweight, makes more sense to fight Manny then baitin some smaller fighter to come up when that same fighter had no intentions to come up in weight to begin with. Especially if they want a Mexican for Manny at lightweight. ****, Antillons right there. He needs another victim, Manny needs a real fight.

                But not only are you ****in ******ed, but you can't read? Or does being ******ed mean you generally can't read? I don't know...I didn't go to "how to idetinfy the complete ****** school." I don't know if ******s can read or not, I mean you're carryin on a conversation with words, so I guess that means yes, moe moe's CAN read. They just can't comprehend and are prone to sayin silly ******ed **** like this..

                So we insult people when we disagree with them? How intelligent. You must be about 12, which would be understandable considering you seem to know nothing about boxing or how it works. Like Soto, Pacquaio was also a featherweight and super feather, just like Soto and he has been wanting a fight like this for years. Lets just compare the line of fighters that they have fought.
                Soto has fought

                Joan Guzman( who is also now a lightweight)

                Bobby Pacquaio(Who Antillion also beat and another reason why his record is currently poor).

                Rocky Juarez(Soto was the first to beat Juarez)

                Kevin Kelly(Very good fighter and champion)

                These fighters alone should tell you that this guy deserves his title shot. He fights the best win or lose and will never be critisized for being over protected and this is what boxing needs. The only guy that Antillion has beaten was Pacquaio, who had already lost to Soto and why you should feel quite foolish. Soto has fought at lightweight as well so it wouldn't be anything new. He is 5'7 in a half, is a very stong and heavyweight puncher and has very good skill. He would be a handful for anyone, with the exception of Guzman..lol.

                What does Antillion even bring to the table? the big money fights that Pacquaio is getting would not only be a bigger pay day, but it would also be a harder challenge against better fighters.

                lol Just out of curiosity, were you ****in your helmet against the wall and droolin all over yourself when you typed that? lol Pfff, figures, typical ******. I wouldn't call you a ****** to your face or anything though, god knows youre all big and strong. Like when you ******s get ******-angry and muster the strength of guerillas an ****. I think god gave you people super ******-strength to make up for your mental handicaps. It's pretty ****in interesting if you think about it. I mean I'd love to see one of you silly dumb bastards play linebacker. You know? Just seein one of you out there goin ******-crazy on the football field? That would be awesome.
                I still don't see your point. Bobby Pacquaio was winning that round handily. He was countering effectively, getting the better of the exchanges and was fighting well on the inside. Bobby was never a major threat and is not known for his desire to win or his heart. He went down from the first body shot that Antillion landed.

                I hope you enjoy that insults that you throw at me, becuase pretty soon you will feel foolish( again) when i don't respond to them. Unlike you, i don't need to insult anyone on an internet forum. I'm not insecure.



                I'm talkin about Valero's time spent beatin on no name Japanese kids, when Antillon [whos and actual lightweight btw] has been beatin on strong thorough lightweights here in the states on his way to building his name. Thats what I was talkin about.
                Valero is an unbeaten champion that has stopped all 24 of his opponents so again, he brings money to the table and actual quality for a win. After Pacquaio beat Antillion(which he would decsively) then people will just criticise him more. Pacquaio as of now if making the best career decisions in the sport and its paying off. Hes rich, hes number one pound for pound and hes not avoiding anyone.

                I can tell by your signature that you are drooling for Pacquaio to lose, well keep drooling becuase he seems like the hottest guy in boxing right now and is on a streak. Live with it.
                Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 07-14-2008, 07:28 AM.

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                • gopi11
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                  So we insult people when we disagree with them? How intelligent. You must be about 12, which would be understandable considering you seem to know nothing about boxing or how it works. Like Soto, Pacquaio was also a featherweight and super feather, just like Soto and he has been wanting a fight like this for years. Lets just compare the line of fighters that they have fought.
                  Soto has fought

                  Joan Guzman( who is also now a lightweight)

                  Bobby Pacquaio(Who Antillion also beat and another reason why his record is currently poor).

                  Rocky Juarez(Soto was the first to beat Juarez)

                  Kevin Kelly(Very good fighter and champion)

                  These fighters alone should tell you that this guy deserves his title shot. He fights the best win or lose and will never be critisized for being over protected and this is what boxing needs. The only guy that Antillion has beaten was Pacquaio, who had already lost to Soto and why you should feel quite foolish. Soto has fought at lightweight as well so it wouldn't be anything new. He is 5'7 in a half, is a very stong and heavyweight puncher and has very good skill. He would be a handful for anyone, with the exception of Guzman..lol.

                  What does Antillion even bring to the table? the big money fights that Pacquaio is getting would not only be a bigger pay day, but it would also be a harder challenge against better fighters.



                  I still don't see your point. Bobby Pacquaio was winning that round handily. He was countering effectively, getting the better of the exchanges and was fighting well on the inside. Bobby was never a major threat and is not known for his desire to win or his heart. He went down from the first body shot that Antillion landed.

                  I hope you enjoy that insults that you throw at me, becuase pretty soon you will feel foolish( again) when i don't respond to them. Unlike you, i don't need to insult anyone on an internet forum. I'm not insecure.





                  Valero is an unbeaten champion that has stopped all 24 of his opponents so again, he brings money to the table and actual quality for a win. After Pacquaio beat Antillion(which he would decsively) then people will just criticise him more. Pacquaio as of now if making the best career decisions in the sport and its paying off. Hes rich, hes number one pound for pound and hes not avoiding anyone.

                  I can tell by your signature that you are drooling for Pacquaio to lose, well keep drooling becuase he seems like the hottest guy in boxing right now and is on a streak. Live with it.


                  How dare you argue with Mayan and throw facts around here! That's not fair!
                  That's what I call a good ol' fashion spanking!

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                  • shadeyfizzle
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by gopi11
                    How dare you argue with Mayan and throw facts around here! That's not fair!
                    That's what I call a good ol' fashion spanking!
                    I dont know who's a bigger douchebag. Mayan or Xcaret. They do nothing but talk outta their asses. Just last month Mayan wouldn't shut the **** up about Soto being able to "dispose" of Paq at lightweight but now he's crying that it's so unfair. What a ****ing girly man

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                    • nycbigdog2
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                      #60
                      Leave Mayan alone.... He really loves PAC like an uncle, even though that uncle ******ed him when he was young... Nevertheless, theres still love there....

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