Substitute Soto with Urbano Antillon at lightweight

[MakeDamnSure]

I've been called worse by females. I think that means the average women can beat ****'out you MakeDamnSure lmao..





But to think baiting Humberto Soto to move up in weight when he has no business in doing so, to think that's respectfull when you still got ANOTHER Mexican fighter who's a NATURAL LIGHTWEIGHT that meets the same specifications as a Valero who was your boys first option by the wayyyy.... Well, that's just weak.

Soto has no ****in business at lightweight, but a lightweight does!

L0l.. Pacquiao a natural Lightweight? He had only 1 fight at LW.. L0l considering he started at 108.. Seeing Antillion's name in your thread title already shows how a big joke you are.

[MaYaN_SuN]

L0l.. Pacquiao a natural Lightweight? He had only 1 fight at LW.. L0l considering he started at 108.. Seeing Antillion's name in your thread title already shows how a big joke you are.

Are you ****in dense? Do think rules bend for Manny or some ****?

He's a lightweight now, just because it's his first or second, or ****in 13th fight at lightweight, he should be fightin lightweights.




Just because he wolfed down all those GNC products to get up in weight and he still ended up as a weaker lightweight doesn't grant him ****. He got to build his entire career off of 2 old vets, that doesn't mean EVERY fight he gets is going to have that same handicap.



I'm all for Antillon over Soto, Soto needs to hang back at 130 where he's suppose to be. After he gets what he needs out of 130, give him 2 or 3 years to be built into a lightweight, **** all that being baited to move up over night an ****.

[bestboxingonly]

Well I think antillon is out of the radar at the moment whether you like it or not but right now people have seen sotto more than your guy. Also lots options for pac fighting the top dogs up the LW w/ real money on the line.

[MakeDamnSure]

Are you ****in dense? Do think rules bend for Manny or some ****?

He's a lightweight now, just because it's his first or second, or ****in 13th fight at lightweight, he should be fightin lightweights.




Just because he wolfed down all those GNC products to get up in weight and he still ended up as a weaker lightweight doesn't grant him ****. He got to build his entire career off of 2 old vets, that doesn't mean EVERY fight he gets is going to have that same handicap.



I'm all for Antillon over Soto, Soto needs to hang back at 130 where he's suppose to be. After he gets what he needs out of 130, give him 2 or 3 years to be built into a lightweight, **** all that being baited to move up over night an ****.

Mentioning Antillon's name just making me LMAO... Please can you just say whatever you want and then just stop mentioning Antillons name? You're making me lauqh pretty hard. My stomach hurts right now..

[MaYaN_SuN]

Well I think antillon is out of the radar at the moment whether you like it or not but right now people have seen sotto more than your guy. Also lots options for pac fighting the top dogs up the LW w/ real money on the line.

Valero isn't on the radar any more then Antillon.

Both of em are only known by the hardcore fans. Obviously Valero is the weaker one skill-wise. It's really no surprise the first instict of the Paq camp is to bait some smaller guys bein that they can't get Edwin, but **** all that easy lame ****.

Antillon doesn't have **** to do and Humberto Soto deserves more respect then that. Soto should secure his spot for Gamboa which would be a LEGITMATE SUPERFEATHERWEIGHT BOUT. Soto isn't forcin Gamboa to move up, Gamboa is comin up on his own...they're meant to face off.

[bestboxingonly]

Valero isn't on the radar any more then Antillon.

Both of em are only known by the hardcore fans. Obviously Valero is the weaker one skill-wise.

Thats just your opinion and should be respected but more people want to see Valero then him. Dont get me wrong but Antillon is badass too, but I thought Valero was better. Antillon used to spar with Valero before and I thought Valero looks better the way i saw it.

[MaYaN_SuN]

Thats just your opinion and should be respected but more people want to see Valero then him. Dont get me wrong but Antillon is badass too, but I thought Valero was better. Antillon used to spar with Valero before and I thought Valero looks better the way i saw it.

Valero might have a slight bigger buzz then Urbano just because Valero first started to get noticed when Marquez and Paq brought life to superfeather, then you immediately had the Soto's and the Guzman's. But Edwin is not a bigger fight for Manny over Urbano.




As for that sparring session, I just saw Antillon adjusting his face guard over and over and plotting afterwards. I wouldn't hold that in too high of reguard when comparing the two.


You see how Valero keeps his face unguarded when he fights in and out of sparring? His face is always exposed. Urbano expoilts that fast, I think any straight puncher would exploit Edwin to be honest. I don't even think Valero even deserves to be mentioned right now. But at the same time it would interesting how his punch would hold up at lightweight..

[gopi11]

Valero might have a slight bigger buzz then Urbano just because Valero first started to get noticed when Marquez and Paq brought life to superfeather, then you immediately had the Soto's and the Guzman's. But Edwin is not a bigger fight for Manny over Urbano.




As for that sparring session, I just saw Antillon adjusting his face guard over and over and plotting afterwards. I wouldn't hold that in too high of reguard when comparing the two.


You see how Valero keeps his face unguarded when he fights in and out of sparring? His face is always exposed. Urbano expoilts that fast, I think any straight puncher would exploit Edwin to be honest. I don't even think Valero even deserves to be mentioned right now. But at the same time it would interesting how his punch would hold up at lightweight..

Here's the sparring. I say Valero is a much better boxer in sparring than in his actual fights and he's got the best in this sparring session with Antillon, although I think the bad incentive/bonus (1st round KOs) that Valero's manager/promoter has been dangling has made Valero's boxing skills deteriorate. He seems to throw all he picked up from his sparring sessions out of the window each and every time the bells rings (specially the 1st round) in each and every round he fought.

It's been 4 years and Antillon has improved by leaps and bounds, and I'm pretty sure Antillon can give a lot more fight than Valero can give to Pacquiao BUT, he's a dime a dozen in Mexico, while Valero has this unknown mystery going for him, add his immaculate record (24-0-0, 24 KOs), plus a legitimate alphabet belt makes him more enticing to most boxing fans...

[gopi11]

Valero might have a slight bigger buzz then Urbano just because Valero first started to get noticed when Marquez and Paq brought life to superfeather, then you immediately had the Soto's and the Guzman's. But Edwin is not a bigger fight for Manny over Urbano.




As for that sparring session, I just saw Antillon adjusting his face guard over and over and plotting afterwards. I wouldn't hold that in too high of reguard when comparing the two.


You see how Valero keeps his face unguarded when he fights in and out of sparring? His face is always exposed. Urbano expoilts that fast, I think any straight puncher would exploit Edwin to be honest. I don't even think Valero even deserves to be mentioned right now. But at the same time it would interesting how his punch would hold up at lightweight..

The Valero fight is the most intriguing fight for Pacquiao, the Campbell fight is the most meaningful, the Guzman fight could be the most challenging, a 3rd fight with Marquez is the most anticipated while the Hatton fight is the most rewarding. I can't see where to put the Antillon fight there...

[shadeyfizzle]

You're a ****ing joke mayan

For months you've bitched about Pac ducking Soto and Valero

Just before the Diaz fight you still claimed even at lightweight both guys would dispose of Pac in impressive fashion.

And yet now that he's finally getting around to them pretty much overnight you've dumped both of them for a guy who's resume is just as big a blank as Valero.