Who is a more complete fighter? Pavlik or Pacquiao?

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  • Dirt E Gomez
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    #51
    Originally posted by BatTheMan
    It's of course Pacman.

    4 Pavlik super nuthuggers has come out of the closet via this poll. The names are AREALFIGHTER, c'monmang', Live Dog and sterling. Beware of them in any Pavlikthread!
    I don't love Pavlik, but I voted for him.

    I think it's close and gave him the nod. I don't think Pavlik is the better fighter, but I think in terms of skill I might give him the nod. He can box at range and in close. It might be somewhat of my imagination given Pavlik's very lanky arms though. I'd also clearly give him the edge in defense.

    I think Pacquiao is probably the "better" fighter given his natural abilities + talent... but on purely talent and technique I edge Pavlik. I think a lot of people are quick to say Pacquiao just because he's recognized as the "better" fighter.

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    • slicksouthpaw16
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      #52
      Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
      I don't love Pavlik, but I voted for him.

      I think it's close and gave him the nod. I don't think Pavlik is the better fighter, but I think in terms of skill I might give him the nod. He can box at range and in close. It might be somewhat of my imagination given Pavlik's very lanky arms though. I'd also clearly give him the edge in defense.

      I think Pacquiao is probably the "better" fighter given his natural abilities + talent... but on purely talent and technique I edge Pavlik.
      There were points where Pacquaio was out boxing Marquez( who is extremly technically correct) and thats saying something. Hes adding a lot more to his weaponary and his variety of punches are a lot better as well. Hooks, uppercuts, counter punches ect. Since we have you seen Pavlik counter ecffectively?

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      • Dirt E Gomez
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        #53
        Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
        There were points where Pacquaio was out boxing Marquez( who is extremly technically correct) and thats saying something. Hes adding a lot more to his weaponary and his variety of punches are a lot better as well.
        Marquez is technical when he tries to be... but often resorts to standard brawling at a distance. Obviously he's added variety to his punches and throws them fine, but I think he throws them in the same situations though. It's kinda' like his playbook has gotten fatter but can never call an audible at the line.

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        • BrooklynBomber
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          #54
          Pavleg................

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          • MikeBrew328
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            #55
            Pacquaio doesn't need defense. He can get hit and come back with 4 HARD shots, es like a nonstop punching machine, and attacks from all sorts of angles. Pavlik is not like that. But both are highly effective. I feel both are extremely tough fights for anybody. BUt Pacquaio is more tough because of his skills, Pavlik is tougher because of his credentials...(height, reach, etc.)

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            • Pullcounter
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              #56
              Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
              There were points where Pacquaio was out boxing Marquez( who is extremly technically correct) and thats saying something. Hes adding a lot more to his weaponary and his variety of punches are a lot better as well. Hooks, uppercuts, counter punches ect. Since we have you seen Pavlik counter ecffectively?
              pac never outboxed marquez... he outslugged him.

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              • luv3s2sp00g3
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                #57
                Versatile is the last word I'd use to describe Pavlik.

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                • Michelle21
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                  #58
                  definetly Pacquiao. Pavlik is just a one way fighter.

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                  • Rafael Benitez
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                    Pacman can't box. He falls over and he is very wild. Got schooled by Marquez in 11 straight rounds in first bout. All he has is power. Although Pavlik comnes forward he is mechanically alot sounder than Pacman. However, Roach has done a good job of sorting him out a bit but he is still wild.

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                    • Bogler
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Rafael Benitez
                      Pacman can't box. He falls over and he is very wild. Got schooled by Marquez in 11 straight rounds in first bout. All he has is power. Although Pavlik comnes forward he is mechanically alot sounder than Pacman. However, Roach has done a good job of sorting him out a bit but he is still wild.
                      that's how he is. and he's effective doing it. pac will never be a jmm, coz he aint, and jmm could never do what pac does coz he couldnt.

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