Who is a more complete fighter? Pavlik or Pacquiao?

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  • sterling
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    #41
    proberly pacman because hes been in different divisions while pavlik has only been at one and hasnt had to change anything.
    pacman has had to change alot because hes been up against bigger guys while pavlik has always been against people smaller then him.

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    • Chunk..
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      #42
      Originally posted by sterling
      proberly pacman because hes been in different divisions while pavlik has only been at one and hasnt had to change anything.
      pacman has had to change a lot because hes been up against bigger guys while pavlik has always been against people smaller then him.
      The fact that he won 4 titles is a major accomplishment and a ticket to the hall of fame. He is a legend because he did beat the three best Mexican fighters of recent years and nobody has that on their resume.

      Some people would argue that Barrera was a young old fighter because he turned pro when he was 16 so by the time he fought pacquiao he had been in too many fights and wars with Junior Jones and Morales. I personally feel that Marquez should have won their second fight but nevertheless he won and I would say he is a legend.

      The Diaz fight did nothing to improve his status as Diaz was a tomato can and expected to lose like he did. If Manny loses to Valero or another lightweight fighter then it should not take away from what he already accomplished since he started at super bantamweight.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #43
        Originally posted by 2501
        Who is more versatile? Who has more actual skill overall in the ring?
        pavlik is better technically but pacquiao has much much better speed. both guys aren't super versatile, they only do one thing and that's come forward throwing big shots after a couple range finding jabs.

        I've never seen pavlik or pacquaio fight well going backwards. imho if you can back up these guys you can beat them.

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        • abadger
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          #44
          Neither guy is a 'complete boxer' by any stretch of the imagination. What Pavlik does he does with greater textbook technical proficiency than does Pacquiao, but really what Pavlik does is very limited.

          Pacquiao can be a little ragged at times, but he is much closer to having a complete package of power, speed and movement than Pavlik is, its not even close really. Neither is that good defensively.

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          • BattlingNelson
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            #45
            It's of course Pacman.

            4 Pavlik super nuthuggers has come out of the closet via this poll. The names are AREALFIGHTER, c'monmang', Live Dog and sterling. Beware of them in any Pavlikthread!

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            • Dirk Diggler UK
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              #46
              Clearly Pacquiao. Is this a joke?

              Ive read some people saying that Pavlik is more "technical"

              Pavlik is actually pretty limited. He makes up for it with heart and power. He would be easy pickings for someone like Calzaghe on a technical level.

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              • Pullcounter
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                #47
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Clearly Pacquiao. Is this a joke?

                Ive read some people saying that Pavlik is more "technical"

                Pavlik is actually pretty limited. He makes up for it with heart and power. He would be easy pickings for someone like Calzaghe on a technical level.
                alot of what pavlik does is textbook ie "technical". pac is all unorthodox and chaotic.

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                • squealpiggy
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                  #48
                  Pac is a more complete fighter nowadays. I honestly don't think Pavlik is going to be tested by anybody currently on the scene, at least not at middleweight. Of course if he fought Calzaghe he'd be tested alright.

                  Pacquiao looked awesome against Diaz who admittedly is no Sugar Ray but Pavlik's last fight was against a heavy-bag with a mean face painted on it. It was one-sided but really not spectacular.

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                  • Jknows
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                    #49
                    Pac right now has more skills to his arsenal..

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                    • slicksouthpaw16
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                      #50
                      Pacquaio in every area. More proven against the elite competition, more accomplished, more in his arsenal, faster hands and is fighting in a better division.

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