Tarver - The Best Talker in Boxing?

[Dynamite Kid]

Roy Jones beat Tarver fair and square the 1st time

there were parts of that fight where Tarver took his foot of the gas and did'nt throw much, namely the middle part of the fight and Roy clearly overtook Tarver in the Championship rounds the last 3/4

Jones clearly pulled the fight out in the last 3 rounds and the only reason people feel it was closer is cause Tarver could not accept the decision and the fans had never seen Jones pushed so much in a fight ,facts are he still won fair and square

Jones looked disapointed in himself a the end i must admit but when an oponent hardly ever hits u and your win nearly every round of your fights then u can understand why he was so underhwhelmed at the end he still won the fight though

Abadger im giving Tarver respect cause im a Jones fan and he deserved credit for what he did and he is a good fighter i get the feeling u are talking Tarvers win up cause u are Calzaghe fan ,how can u think Tarver beat Jones and Calzaghe beat Hopkins LMAO thats what im talking about

[abadger]

Roy Jones beat Tarver fair and square the 1st time

there were parts of that fight where Tarver took his foot of the gas and did'nt throw much, namely the middle part of the fight and Roy clearly overtook Tarver in the Championship rounds the last 3/4

Jones clearly pulled the fight out in the last 3 rounds and the only reason people feel it was closer is cause Tarver could not accept the decision and the fans had never seen Jones pushed so much in a fight ,facts are he still won fair and square

Jones looked disapointed in himself a the end i must admit but when an oponent hardly ever hits u and your win nearly every round of your fights then u can understand why he was so underhwhelmed at the end he still won the fight though

Abadger im giving Tarver respect cause im a Jones fan and he deserved credit for what he did and he is a good fighter i get the feeling u are talking Tarvers win up cause u are Calzaghe fan ,how can u think Tarver beat Jones and Calzaghe beat Hopkins LMAO thats what im talking about

Not at all. Did you read my posts? I, like many, thought that Tarver had been robbed immediately after I watched the fight, and I haven't seen it since. However it seems that most smart people believe that although Tarver looked good, Jones actually did enough to win. Short of going back and scoring the fight myself, which I really don't have time to do, I am willing to believe this view. Also, though I think Tarver put in excellent performances in all three fights, that wasn't prime Roy he fought.

As for me being a Calzaghe fan and 'talking up' Tarvers wins, first I don't se that it has anything to do with it, and second I'm not, at least not to any greater degree than saying that Tarver was better than simply lucky. I don't know what you think a fight several years ago between two boxers Calzaghe has never faced has to do with Joe, but I suppose you imagine I would like to discredit Roy? Well, I actually like Roy Jones, what boxing fan wouldn't, and although I think some of his fans get a little carried away with the whole 'unbeatable superman' thing, trying to discredit him would be pretty pointless because he was a fantastic boxer.

As for your Tarver - Jones, Hopkins - Calzaghe comparison, what are you saying? You really think Hopkins beat Calzaghe? If so thats up to you but really it wasn't even that close and shouldn't even have been a split decision. I haven't got as clear picture in my head of the first Tarver - Jones fight, but as I said my immediate reaction was that Tarver won, but I am prepared to believe I am wrong about this. My perception at the time was that what now seems to be regarded as 'Rounds off' for Tarver was actually smart fighting because to come lunging in was exactly Roy wanted Tarver to do. In actual fact it was smart fighting, but perhaps Tarver was a little too smart for his own good.

[Dynamite Kid]

Not at all. Did you read my posts? I, like many, thought that Tarver had been robbed immediately after I watched the fight, and I haven't seen it since. However it seems that most smart people believe that although Tarver looked good, Jones actually did enough to win. Short of going back and scoring the fight myself, which I really don't have time to do, I am willing to believe this view. Also, though I think Tarver put in excellent performances in all three fights, that wasn't prime Roy he fought.

As for me being a Calzaghe fan and 'talking up' Tarvers wins, first I don't se that it has anything to do with it, and second I'm not, at least not to any greater degree than saying that Tarver was better than simply lucky. I don't know what you think a fight several years ago between two boxers Calzaghe has never faced has to do with Joe, but I suppose you imagine I would like to discredit Roy? Well, I actually like Roy Jones, what boxing fan wouldn't, and although I think some of his fans get a little carried away with the whole 'unbeatable superman' thing, trying to discredit him would be pretty pointless because he was a fantastic boxer.

As for your Tarver - Jones, Hopkins - Calzaghe comparison, what are you saying? You really think Hopkins beat Calzaghe? If so thats up to you but really it wasn't even that close and shouldn't even have been a split decision. I haven't got as clear picture in my head of the first Tarver - Jones fight, but as I said my immediate reaction was that Tarver won, but I am prepared to believe I am wrong about this. My perception at the time was that what now seems to be regarded as 'Rounds off' for Tarver was actually smart fighting because to come lunging in was exactly Roy wanted Tarver to do. In actual fact it was smart fighting, but perhaps Tarver was a little too smart for his own good.

i just dont know how u come to the conclusion Tarver won the first time u saw it thats all and to call it a robbery id have to seriously ask questions of your ability to score a fight or wether u were being biased back then cause it is pretty clear it was not a robbery

as for Calzaghe v Hopkins i dont think neither deserved to win as ive stated before but to say it was not close is ridiculous Duke McKenzie thought he lost Mike Tyson thought he lost his father clearly thought the fight was close as did Calzaghe , Hopkins won 4 rounds of that fight easy and scored a knockdown to get a 10/8 round thats 5 rounds u only need 6 rounds get a draw and u suggest it was not a close fight if that is not a biased or inacurate assesment of the fight i dont know what is ,on top of all this Hopkins landed the cleaner harder shots and Calzaghe rarely found the target with anything accurate im not saying he deserved to win but Calzaghe did not deserve to win either he was the ineffective aggressor in the fight and took the more clean blows in the fight and he was the one landing the ineffective punches but Hopkins did not fight within the spirit of the game and Calzaghe did that is the only reason i can come up with why they decided to give it to Calzaghe

this is the fight i finally gave up with the punchstats cause there is no way Calzaghe landed the amount punches they said he did i was sceptical of the punch stats after the PBF v Castillo but this fight made up my mind about them

[abadger]

i just dont know how u come to the conclusion Tarver won the first time u saw it thats all and to call it a robbery id have to seriously ask questions of your ability to score a fight or wether u were being biased back then cause it is pretty clear it was not a robbery

Well the reason is that I didn't score it, I just watched it for fun and at the end I felt that Tarver was the winner. Like I said, I'm prepared to believe I was wrong.

[Dynamite Kid]

Well the reason is that I didn't score it, I just watched it for fun and at the end I felt that Tarver was the winner. Like I said, I'm prepared to believe I was wrong.

Abadger i dont ment to jump on your case im just being an


i take your point is was a while ago and i must admit i thought Pavllik lost to Taylor the second time allthough i was watching it live on a bad sopcast stream and i did rewatch the fight and i had Pavlik winning when i watched a decent verison of the fight and i held my hands up

i dont mean to act like a twat Abadger its just my nature sometimes