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Ricardo Torres: "I Got Careless and Kendall Holt Got Me"
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Originally posted by alfonso13702 View PostThe fact is he was still stunned 10 minutes after the fight!!! He was to be rushed to UMC but he didn't wanna leave without his wife. I SAW HIM ......he was still shook. I'm not saying the right didn't finish him......I'm saying the butt had him more than half there.
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Originally posted by Undefeated View PostLook at that! He was headbutted! Then went to the ropes, then his right hand got caught in the ropes, which could've prevented that right hand from landing.
Third fight is a must!
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Originally posted by Scott9945 View PostIt probably has a lot to do with Torres being unconscious and not remembering what happened to him. The headbutt was caught on tape and is indisputable.
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Originally posted by sonofisis View PostYes, and the tape reveals that at the EXACT [I mean EXACT!] moment when Holt's head bobed to Torres' left, Torres' head jerked right and then he stumbled. What caused the set up for the right hand was another punch (a right hook) that jerked his head to the right while Holt was bobbing out. It is mechanically impossible or a headbutt [coming from Torres' right-to-left] to have made his head jerk right and set up that right hand. End of story.
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I don't think the butt had everything to do with the ko. I do believe it had something to do with him being knocked off balance and put into an awkward position to defend himself and he got caught before he could defend himself. Peoplke can't assume the butt dazed him or the butt somehow affected him because they didn't FEEL the butt. This happens in fights all the time and fighters aren't affected. Most of the time they point it out first, and then resume. Torres was under fire and trying to gain his balance and boom!Last edited by Boofdatruth; 07-07-2008, 07:47 PM.
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Originally posted by sonofisis View PostYes, and the tape reveals that at the EXACT [I mean EXACT!] moment when Holt's head bobed to Torres' left, Torres' head jerked right and then he stumbled. What caused the set up for the right hand was another punch (a right hook) that jerked his head to the right while Holt was bobbing out. It is mechanically impossible or a headbutt [coming from Torres' right-to-left] to have made his head jerk right and set up that right hand. End of story.
Dude give up, you are wrong. The headbutt happened whether you like it or not and it was the causal factor. That right hook was not at the "EXACT" time as you mentioned. The head butt occurred, his head snapped back, he was wobbled and stummbled back and that set him up for the right. Watch the slomotion video... If you didnt see it there, then there is no point of arguing with you nor should you be allowed to argue about anything because you should be considered a ******.
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Originally posted by sonofisis View PostBecause there are none. He was swinging like a cave man, got hit with at least one body shot and a right hook that put him on the ropes, and then got KOed. His fault entirely.
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Originally posted by boofdatruth View PostI don't think the butt had anything to do with the ko. I do believe it had something to do with him being knocked off balance and put into an awkward position to defend himself and he got caught before he could defend himself. Peoplke can't assume the butt dazed him or the butt somehow affected him because they didn't FEEL the butt. This happens in fights all the time and fighters aren't affected. Most of the time they point it out first, and then resume. Torres was under fire and trying to gain his balance and boom!
The headbutt has nothing to do with the KO, yet the headbutt knocks him (Torres) off balance into a vulnerable position where he can be hit again without getting a chance to defend himself properly? Naturally another crushing punch is landed directly afterward and Torres is out cold. Therefore the headbutt, an illegal tactic (intentional or accidental), directly plays into the end result...the knockout.
That could be grounds for a NC. It was a fluky end to the fight and Holt obviously didn't do anything intentionally, but there should certainly be a third fight.
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