Why Marquez will always be a step behind Pacquiao and Barrera

[Left Hook Tua]

i love it how when marquez does his counterpunching, then he is setting himself up to be robbed....


then you get hopkins and floyd(who are as aggressive as a ****ing poodle) doing their counterpunching, and theyre "master ring generals racking up the points"

marquez is not hopkins.

marquez doesn't grab and hold and push.

marquez does not try to make fights ugly to make it in his favor.

[-Hyperion-]

marquez is not hopkins.

marquez doesn't grab and hold and push.

marquez does not try to make fights ugly to make it in his favor.

yeah marquez actually wins fights with legal skills and doesnt need to use his status so his bull**** is tolerated...

[-Hyperion-]

guys , please don't confuse me with the other guys posts.

i never really said anything about not going for a ko or not trying to win the fight.

the point i was trying to make , although from the response i might have not stated it correctly , is that marquez's style is conducive to a decision being wrong or not in his favor.

can i at least get some agreement on that. a close fight is a close fight no matter the styles but juan ma's is more conducive to those kind of bad decisions or pick 'em type decisions. you don't have to ko somebody for it to be conclusive.

theres as much "close" decisions that have gone the way of the counterpuncher...(see mayweather-castillo)

oh and 99% of close fights are clear...the boxing establishment just likes to justify everything...

[shadeyfizzle]

theres as much "close" decisions that have gone the way of the counterpuncher...(see mayweather-castillo)

oh and 99% of close fights are clear...the boxing establishment just likes to justify everything...

Its a sport with infinite intangibles. You take any trio of judges scorecards on any close fight, rearrange their seating, show em the exact same fight and i guarantee you'd get a different outcome

[Flab]

Typical hate thread. Marquez is undefeated in many peoples eyes.

53-0.

[BOLLOCKS]

Typical hate thread. Marquez is undefeated in many peoples eyes.

53-0.

Yeah by the GayPride people.

[Left Hook Tua]

theres as much "close" decisions that have gone the way of the counterpuncher...(see mayweather-castillo)

oh and 99% of close fights are clear...the boxing establishment just likes to justify everything...

i agree.

see this is why sometimes i'd rather argue my side on my own rather than argue on the same side as others.

i never said close decisions are exclusive to counterpunchers.

i never said you have to try to ko an opponent to win conclusively. (joel koed katsidis. was his win conclusive? i can argue michael should be the favorite in a rematch)

my point was out of the other great feathers , marquez's style is more prone to a close decision or a bad decision. when you're a counterpuncher you wait for your opponent to come in , you're at a slight disadvantage with a judge that favors aggressiveness. in a close round a counterpuncher is at a handicap with a judge that favors aggressiveness because the other guy is coming in.

i never said anything about marquez not trying to win or juan losing because he doesn't go for a ko. he's a counterpuncher he gets his ko's when the opponent gives him an opening. sometimes you don't get that opening.

[Flab]

Yeah by the GayPride people.

Go and play with on coming traffic you wanker.

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[shadeyfizzle]

Typical hate thread. Marquez is undefeated in many peoples eyes.

53-0.

He's 47-6 in just as many peoples eyes. Hence the discussion

[Flab]

He's 47-6 in just as many peoples eyes. Hence the discussion

Who and how?