Why Marquez will always be a step behind Pacquiao and Barrera

[ELPacman]

Because Marquez never pushes himself further than he can when it matters. He can argue after he lost the fight that he won, but the fact is, if he showed the judges he wanted it, he would have got the nods. Sure he beat Barrera, but it was close and some say Barrera won. The reason he loses and lucky to get draw with Pacquiao is because Pacquiao shows he wants it. He goes at Marquez, he takes risks and chances. Marquez never did that. I'll give him some props, he tried to put on a decent show in the 12th rd with Manny in rematch, but it was too late. The man either can't stay on his feet and loses, or he's missing that special something that Manny, Barrera, and Morales has that gets them through adversity to pull out a win. No hate, just saying it how it is. Marquez is a great fighter, no doubt, but the reason he never got as big as the aforementioned is because of this "something" he lacks.

[2501]

why are you guys so threatened by Marquez?

[Kball15]

Yes, getting up from 3 knockdowns in the first round, and battling back to deserve a draw (and in many eyes a win) isnt pushing urself when it matters.

Hell, Marquez clearly beat Barrera and many many people think he holds 2 wins over Pacquiao, myself included.

[ELPacman]

Yes, getting up from 3 knockdowns in the first round, and battling back to deserve a draw (and in many eyes a win) isnt pushing urself when it matters.

Hell, Marquez clearly beat Barrera and many many people think he holds 2 wins over Pacquiao, myself included.

Ya he did all that, and didn't win, had a close fight with Barrera. That goes to show, he's missing something big.

[Kball15]

Ya he did all that, and didn't win, had a close fight with Barrera. That goes to show, he's missing something big.

what? what is he missing? Luck?!

He is very very popular in Mexico. his fights get MILLIONS of viewers. rediculous ratings in Mexico.

And because of him Pacquiao-Marquez 2 broke the record for PPV buys and total revenue for a fight under welterweight...

[Mr. Ryan]

Ya he did all that, and didn't win, had a close fight with Barrera. That goes to show, he's missing something big.

He's a safety first fighter. On the elite level he isn't thinking knockout. You can't try to just win the rounds in Vegas, they won't all go your way.

[fightingfigs]

The guy went to the filipines himself to bait Pacquiao for a 3rd fight and he moved up in weight to get another crack at him. Believe me he wants it.

he beat Barrera clearly and I dont know what the judges were thinking in Both Pac fights but I did not see him lose some of the rounds that were given to pac shouldve defnitely been to Marquez. THIS will never end until somebody get KOed

[Domain]

the problem with marquez is he doesnt fight to win some times...he fights to survive when he fought pacman but if he wanted it he should of gone for the gusto.

and I believe he lost to barrera because barreras dumb ass after he knock down jmm hit him when he was down and get deducted a point.

[Left Hook Tua]

why are you guys so threatened by Marquez?

i don't think it's threatened.

most don't like the fact that he gives manny problems.

a lot of manny fans think manny is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

the people that disagree with them will more than likely bring marquez up and that's what irks a lot of manny fans. manny can ko morales , ko larios , ko solis , ko diaz......even if he ko's hatton , someone will always bring up the marquez draw and the marquez "loss" and it bugs them.

it's like with kobe fans. kobe can win mvp , kobe can singlehandedly get them to the playoffs , kobe can win scoring titles , kobe could lead the votes to the all star game......and when someone says he hasn't won a title without shaq , kobe fans go nuts.

me? i have my own personal reasons to dislike the maricon.

[MANGLER]

He's a safety first fighter. On the elite level he isn't thinking knockout. You can't try to just win the rounds in Vegas, they won't all go your way.

Good call. Outboxin your man will get you a decision if you dominate thoroughly, but not if the fight is very close. In those kinda wars you gotta press for the KO.