RJJ as dominant with McClellan around?

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  • rizkybizness
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    #21
    How would Calzaghe's career be with the G-Man around?

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    • Silencers
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      #22
      Hard to say, it would have depended on how their fight would have went.

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      • Pugilistic™
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        #23
        Jones would of beat McCellan.

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        • BKM-
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          #24
          It doesn't work like that. You can't just say he hits Roy, and he wins. Jones didn't have such a horrible chin as some people think, but hitting him on the chin was near impossible. You can count the amount of times he's been hit flush in his prime on one hand probably. Great defense.

          McClellan would not have beaten Roy Jones JR. First of all, amateurs and the pro's are 2 completely diffirent things.

          And most importantly, Gman was on a downward spiral as a fighter after ditching Manny Steward. He became just a puncher with no plan B to fall back on if his bum rushing style didn't work in the first few rounds.

          I would have seen Roy pick him apart from all angles, and maybe get hit with some good shots and be in a couple of scary moments on the ropes covering up, but he had too much foot quickness around the ring, reflexes were out of this world and his stamina excellent.

          Wide UD, Roy Jones JR. It would have been very interesting if a developed, skilled version of Gman with Steward was put in front of Roy, though.

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          • COLINSRI
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            #25
            In an interview Nigel Benn said that if Calzaghe was active.....JC could have beaten them all Steve Collins, Benn, Mclellan, Eubanks etc etc...

            .....JC would have schooled GM. Benn kicked his arse convincingly...what a fight.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #26
              Great thread! Cong**** to the starter.

              McClellan and Jones were friends and close competitors. In fact, Jones worked McClellan's corner in Gerald's first few fights.

              Their Kronk sparring sessions are legendary - many people forget Manny Steward signed both Jones AND McClellan out of the amateurs to their first pro contracts. They had hotly contested wars in the gym. And as Michael Moorer said, "I don't where this Roy has no chin talk came from cuz he and Gerald used to go at it all the time."

              McClellan would've been Jones toughest opponent (and everyone else's) except for one thing...he began to fall in love with his power. Sorta like Tito, he began forgetting the little things he did that made him great. Tito in his prime at 147 was an excellent BOXER - he would barely throw punches the first couple rounds; just circling and feinting as he sized you up. By the third or fourth, the fight was over.

              McClellan forgetting those kind of skills really came back to haunt him against Benn. Against Jones, who was always improving, he would've been stopped. he simply left himself too open, often neglecting his jab and stance. Jones at 168 was a machine--a little too much for McClellan.

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              • Sir_Joe
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                #27
                Calzaghe would have beaten G-Man because Calzaghe has a good chin and better boxing skills than Jones. Jones has a **** chin and only raw talent, no boxing skills.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Great thread! Cong**** to the starter.

                  McClellan and Jones were friends and close competitors. In fact, Jones worked McClellan's corner in Gerald's first few fights.

                  Their Kronk sparring sessions are legendary - many people forget Manny Steward signed both Jones AND McClellan out of the amateurs to their first pro contracts. They had hotly contested wars in the gym. And as Michael Moorer said, "I don't where this Roy has no chin talk came from cuz he and Gerald used to go at it all the time."

                  McClellan would've been Jones toughest opponent (and everyone else's) except for one thing...he began to fall in love with his power. Sorta like Tito, he began forgetting the little things he did that made him great. Tito in his prime at 147 was an excellent BOXER - he would barely throw punches the first couple rounds; just circling and feinting as he sized you up. By the third or fourth, the fight was over.

                  McClellan forgetting those kind of skills really came back to haunt him against Benn. Against Jones, who was always improving, he would've been stopped. he simply left himself too open, often neglecting his jab and stance. Jones at 168 was a machine--a little too much for McClellan.

                  Thank you. Great post btw.

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                  • Silencers
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Great thread! Cong**** to the starter.

                    McClellan and Jones were friends and close competitors. In fact, Jones worked McClellan's corner in Gerald's first few fights.

                    Their Kronk sparring sessions are legendary - many people forget Manny Steward signed both Jones AND McClellan out of the amateurs to their first pro contracts. They had hotly contested wars in the gym. And as Michael Moorer said, "I don't where this Roy has no chin talk came from cuz he and Gerald used to go at it all the time."

                    McClellan would've been Jones toughest opponent (and everyone else's) except for one thing...he began to fall in love with his power. Sorta like Tito, he began forgetting the little things he did that made him great. Tito in his prime at 147 was an excellent BOXER - he would barely throw punches the first couple rounds; just circling and feinting as he sized you up. By the third or fourth, the fight was over.

                    McClellan forgetting those kind of skills really came back to haunt him against Benn. Against Jones, who was always improving, he would've been stopped. he simply left himself too open, often neglecting his jab and stance. Jones at 168 was a machine--a little too much for McClellan.
                    Good post. I agree.

                    The McClellan that fell in love with his power and went for the knockout from the opening bell would have lost to Jones because he would have left a lot of opening for Jones to exploit.

                    McClellan the boxer-puncher would have given Jones a very tough fight, I still think Jones would have pulled off the victory though.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Silencers
                      Good post. I agree.

                      The McClellan that fell in love with his power and went for the knockout from the opening bell would have lost to Jones because he would have left a lot of opening for Jones to exploit.

                      McClellan the boxer-puncher would have given Jones a very tough fight, I still think Jones would have pulled off the victory though.
                      yo silencers... off topic but...

                      skills breakdown for cotto marg

                      power, heart, chin, stamina?

                      i need 4 selections

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