Is there any Heavyweight Fight to get over 500k Buys!?!?

[BrooklynBomber]

I think if you give David Haye a tv show, and get American venom against him because they will think he sounds elitist, then get some blue collar american guy with a sad story (from a steelworker rust belt town) you could market the crap out of it and do more than 500k.

But alas, who is there?

Kelly Pavlik should hit the weights and gain some weight?

[Scott9945]

then what does that make a guy like oscar de la hoya?

Oscar was born less than 20 miles from where I was. He was on the US Olympic team. He is a proven and known commodity in America. You can't say that about Haye or Klitschko.

[Boogie Nights]

Just stop it, it went over your head.

This simple logic just escapes you, PPV is an american thing, thus it can only be bought by americans(I am not talking that PPV is impossible outside of America, just that it is now done only in America). Both Trinidad and DLH were big stars, however most of trinidad's fans were puerto ricans, and the targeted audience for the fight were the puerto rican americans(because they can actually buy the PPV) same goes with Oscar, who had large viewing audiences, but many of these were the mexican americans.
Now, do you understand that Oscar was largely marketed to mexican americans because he is one of them. However, Oscar IS an american.

i wasnt dis*****g that most PPVs are not done in America as the majority of them are. any fighter who wants a green future needs to come to America. Oscar is an american, but he's a mexican american who comes from a family of mexicans, there's a difference.

there's no specific survey or a poll that can prove that almost every PPV buyer is an american-something. not neccesairly every buyer was born in America, but they are buying the PPV in America. but i see what you're getting at.

what i dont agree with is americans buying americans. that's not how i view it. any fighter can come from anywhere and be a success, and be a draw. im sure if Wlad was more exciting and fought the right guys then people in America would watch. but it's not just Wladimir however, American heavyweights can win a belt let alone be an attraction.

[Boogie Nights]

Oscar was born less than 20 miles from where I was. He was on the US Olympic team. He is a proven and known commodity in America. You can't say that about Haye or Klitschko.

Haye hasnt fought in America yet so we cant say anything about his drawing power in America.

Klitschko is not doing PPVs, thus we cant know about the numbers. if he was in a PPV tommorow i doubt it would collect much, because there's not enough exciting fighters out there that he can take into a paid main event.

but it has nothing to do with Klitschko not being on the US olympic team or being 20 miles away from where you are. it has everything to do with the way he approaches his fights.

[Jim Jeffries]

Obviously Tyson and Holyfield did more PPVs than any other heavyweight in history and Tyson/Lewis did very well, but did Lewis have any PPVs in America not involving an American, and did any of them do any good? Because I don't think a HW fight has ever done over 500K buys here not involving an American.

[Guest]

Haye hasnt fought in America yet so we cant say anything about his drawing power in America.

Klitschko is not doing PPVs, thus we cant know about the numbers. if he was in a PPV tommorow i doubt it would collect much, because there's not enough exciting fighters out there that he can take into a paid main event.

but it has nothing to do with Klitschko not being on the US olympic team or being 20 miles away from where you are. it has everything to do with the way he approaches his fights.

They just need to market the crap out of Haye, and get Wlad a little swagger.
You never saw Bowe, Holyfield, Tyson, or Lewis acting like they were at a job interview.
Haye just needs to kill the extraneous talk and sound like a damn killer.

And hype the crap out of it on HBO before and after every show so ESPN gets wind of it and builds it up.
SIMPLE formula really. But promoters are stuck in the carnival days.

[Boogie Nights]

They just need to market the crap out of Haye, and get Wlad a little swagger.
You never saw Bowe, Holyfield, Tyson, or Lewis acting like they were at a job interview.
Haye just needs to kill the extraneous talk and sound like a damn killer.

And hype the crap out of it on HBO before and after every show so ESPN gets wind of it and builds it up.
SIMPLE formula really. But promoters are stuck in the carnival days.

I agree Klitschko may be a bit too polite for his own good. as much as people like to bash someone like Tyson, they would rather watch tyson at his most extreme then watch Wlad sit and talk about his involment with children.

he's a good man to have a project with kids in thirs world countries, and many fighters should get involved in those types of things. tyson too was involved in many charities but he didnt advertise it in his interviews. instead he was on about boxing, explaining how he would push the bone into someone's brain. quite entertaining actually.

[Scott9945]

Haye hasnt fought in America yet so we cant say anything about his drawing power in America.

Klitschko is not doing PPVs, thus we cant know about the numbers. if he was in a PPV tommorow i doubt it would collect much, because there's not enough exciting fighters out there that he can take into a paid main event.

but it has nothing to do with Klitschko not being on the US olympic team or being 20 miles away from where you are. it has everything to do with the way he approaches his fights.

Haye not having fought in America is a definite negative until he proves otherwise, and if Klitschko could sell PPV's in America you'd better believe he'd be doing it.

[KnockoutTheFat]

Valuev-Wlad, assuming Valuev picks up the WBA belt.

[Boogie Nights]

Haye not having fought in America is a definite negative until he proves otherwise, and if Klitschko could sell PPV's in America you'd better believe he'd be doing it.

yeah i know where did you hear me say otherwise? i wasnt pointing out that klitschko cant sell PPV because he's not an american. i've stated that he cant sell PPV because he's a boring fighter.

ive responded to your post where you were saying Haye and Klitschko are not americans like oscar de la hoya which somehow benefited his sales.

im not sure if you're trying to confirm what i said or just getting the wrong idea at what im trying to say here