Calzaghe Haters: What Is It You Don't Like?

[abadger]

Yes of course you don't. Like when Lucky13 said that Hatton lost to Floyd cause Floyd is African and can take the desert heat better than Hatton can who is white.

That was quite realistic. Good job.

That is just one guy, probably the most extreme of all calzaghe fans, and certainly one of the funniest. I saw that "African Americans are immune to heat" post, and I'm pretty sure he was joking.

Even if he wasn't, you can't just take what you think is the worst example of a Calzaghe fan and apply it to everyone. What about posters like KrisSilver and Clegg and an absolute ton of others who all like Calzaghe but really contribute to the forum with lots of interesting and thoughtful posts?

[-Swizzy-]

You really think Calzaghe is boring? This is something a lot of Americans say, along with disliking his style, but I must admit I do find it very hard to understand. Against Lacy and Kessler he looked fantastic and boxed with both skill and agression, anything but boring IMO. The Hopkins fight was a bit dull, but that was hardly surprising.

If you don't mind me asking, what is it that makes you say he is boring?

pitty-pat punches, hug, pitty-pat punches, hug, pitty-pat punches, hug. he is boring as hell. and the hopkins calzaghe fight was boring cuz hopkins does the same hug strategy and calzaghe hugged him just as much if not more than hopkins in their fight. BORING skill less fighting IMO.

[Left Hook Tua]

I am often puzzled by the amount of hate Calzaghe gets on here, and have been wondering what is the root cause.

Its easy to say that his haters, usually Americans are biased because of nationality, but that doesn't explain much really. Even if you are a little nationalistic you still must have an opinion as to why Calzaghe does not deserve your respect.

My theory is you all actually just don't think he's a very good boxer, so if I'm right, could some of you please enlighten me as to why you feel this way? If not, then please share you hate and enlighten me anyway.

Thanks

he's welsh.

if he was a true englishman he'd be a better fighter.

[Flab]

becuz he slaps like a silly yurop ******. thatz why we hates him.

Spot on. I can't stand the slapper. In his next fight he will probably bring his handbag.

[Allucard]

I am often puzzled by the amount of hate Calzaghe gets on here, and have been wondering what is the root cause.

Its easy to say that his haters, usually Americans are biased because of nationality, but that doesn't explain much really. Even if you are a little nationalistic you still must have an opinion as to why Calzaghe does not deserve your respect.

My theory is you all actually just don't think he's a very good boxer, so if I'm right, could some of you please enlighten me as to why you feel this way? If not, then please share you hate and enlighten me anyway.

Thanks

That's what i feel. He's not a very good boxer. Well, if he was, why wait until he's ****ing 36 to jump the the states? Why get dropped by a 43 year old? Why even fight one? (don't give me the ring magazine champion crap, B hopp ****ing OWNS THAT **** he's Oscar's partner and the Ring magazine is theirs) Why fight Jones and not Dawson or Pavlik? Dawson is young and so is Pavlik, both of those fighters would definitely win the fight.

Plus by doing this (and he's not alone here) he's contributing to turn boxing the sport into boxing the WWE show.

[Pugilistic™]

Careful now, for I am one of those fans, but then I can indeed be very ******.

I don't think his fans on here are that bad really. Lucky13 says some extreme things from time to time, but it is funny to see the way he annoys people. In general I'd say Calzaghe's fans are quite realistic. Noone really claims he is GOAT or ATG like you see from Mayweather and Jones fans. If anything I'd say the things that seem to annoy people most about his fans are when they say stuff like he is better than/ would beat Hopkins/ Jones/ Toney, but even if you disagree with this, these aren't exactly RIDICULOUS statements to make, since Calzaghe is actually a very good boxer, probably better than the fighters each of those guys has lost to.

to be honest though you are one of the better calzaghe fans/posters, its just sometimes some of them create threads and posts just to create arguments, its not cool, you can have your own opinion but don't just post ****** **** to create arguments.

[Clegg]

pitty-pat punches, hug, pitty-pat punches, hug, pitty-pat punches, hug. he is boring as hell. and the hopkins calzaghe fight was boring cuz hopkins does the same hug strategy and calzaghe hugged him just as much if not more than hopkins in their fight. BORING skill less fighting IMO.

You really think that Calzaghe was doing "just as much if not more" hugging than Hopkins in that fight?

[abadger]

he's obviously a good fighter otherwise he wouldnt be in the position he's in but i dont think he's as good as his fans think he is.. cal has decent hand speed, a great work rate, and he can make adjustments.. but i think his defense is kinda sorry and thats why he has such a high work rate so he can compensate for his defensive flaws.. i also dont think he's gone up against great opposition for the most part of his career.. the only decent fighter he fought was a 43 year old hopkins and he had trouble against him.. its not entirely his fault that he fought sorry opposition but i dont think he went out of his way to fight the big names.. Like during the 90's and early 2000's, i would of liked to see him go against jones, hopkins, wright, toney, echols, glen johnson, etc

OK, certainly there were better fights out there for Calzaghe, but do you think it is fair to blame him exclusively for these fights not happening, and when you criticise his record can you really say that you subject those of his peers to the same scrutiny?

A simple example: right now it is Calzaghe, not Hopkins or Jones or even a younger American who is the top P4P guy. Clearly he had something going for him all along. Sure, he has some names missing from his resume, but his is missing from theirs too. Shouldn't they have had to fight Joe to 'prove themselves' in their prime? It sure looks now like he would have been one of the toughest opponents they could have fought. Another example, how come when Hopkins moved up from MW he skipped Joe's division? See what I'm saying, it works both ways.

Likewise, what about the quality of names on their resumes? Are the ones on Bernard Hopkins's that good really? On Jones's? Even on Toney's? If all the middling names on these guys resumes were switched with Calzaghe's, would there really be that much difference?

[-Swizzy-]

You really think that Calzaghe was doing "just as much if not more" hugging than Hopkins in that fight?

re-watch the fight and count the amount of hugs initiated by both fighters.

[abadger]

pitty-pat punches, hug, pitty-pat punches, hug, pitty-pat punches, hug. he is boring as hell. and the hopkins calzaghe fight was boring cuz hopkins does the same hug strategy and calzaghe hugged him just as much if not more than hopkins in their fight. BORING skill less fighting IMO.

OK. I will agree with you that Calzaghe doesn't have the most power, but he sure as hell is active and throws a lot of punches, a lot more than say Bernard Hopkins, who also does not load up when he hits.

As for hugging, I really don't want to argue with you, but that is just not true AT ALL. I have to ask if you have seen him box outside of the Hopkins fight? Hopkins was almost always the initiator in that one anyway, but Joe did not perform his best.

Really, Calzaghe is the opposite of a clinching fighter, he comes to fight every single time out. Anyone who follows boxing really will tell you the same.