is manny pacman pacquiao a top 50 all time great fighter??

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

if he could get down to 130 and win then he is a 130 fighter. no matter how much pac weighed between fights he could make 112 and win a title. you think fighters dont blow up in between fights?? educate youself. your making yourself look silly with every post.

So, that means that Floyd can go dominate the lightweight division right now...AND YOU WOULD BE COMPLETELY COOL WITH THAT

RIGHT?

Nobody is talking "between fights"... I am talking ON FIGHT NIGHT. IN SHAPE.

I think that dirty river water got into your head..

[Domain]

Mayweather never lost because of his skills. He was arguably the greatest BOXER in the last 20 years. The other guy being Roy Jones. Pacman is an exciting fighter with alot of heart. He is #1 P4P now. Pacmans division is stacked now, The only knock on Floyd is that he should have cleaned out the division before he left.

floyd jr hand picked his foes....Joan Guzman has great skills too does that mean he is better then those legends?

no because you have to fight the best who gives a **** about looking like you can slip a punch...james toney can slip a punch but he has proven that he is a fighter he never duck nobody to me james toney is greater then floyd jr cause james toney does want to fight the best and solidify his legacy.

[shadeyfizzle]

Mayweather never lost because of his skills. He was arguably the greatest BOXER in the last 20 years. The other guy being Roy Jones. Pacman is an exciting fighter with alot of heart. He is #1 P4P now. Pacmans division is stacked now, The only knock on Floyd is that he should have cleaned out the division before he left.

I was agreeing with you until this post. Floyd had the luxury of an amateur career. A time when he didnt have the same skills as he does as a pro. A time when he lost several fights. You dont think that if Pacquiao had more rounded skills from amateur he could possibly be undefeated as well? Or if Mayweather turned pro at 16 he wouldn't have a couple of losses from early in his career??

[them_apples]

Pacquiao was 112 lbs when he was 18

Pacquiao is smaller weaker guy going against Diaz....that takes balls

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I was agreeing with you until this post. Floyd had the luxury of an amateur career. A time when he didnt have the same skills as he does as a pro. A time when he lost several fights. You dont think that if Pacquiao had more rounded skills from amateur he could possibly be undefeated as well? Or if Mayweather turned pro at 16 he wouldn't have a couple of losses from early in his career??

It wasn't like Pacquiao was fighting "the best" as an early pro. He was fighting second-tier asian guys.

However, Mayweather's losses (or disputed losses) were to the very best amateurs. On a national/international stage.

So, i don't think your argument can be supported or disproved either way.

[shadeyfizzle]

So, that means that Floyd can go dominate the lightweight division right now...AND YOU WOULD BE COMPLETELY COOL WITH THAT

RIGHT?

Nobody is talking "between fights"... I am talking ON FIGHT NIGHT. IN SHAPE.

I think that dirty river water got into your head..

Actually I would be completely kool with that. If floyd could unify 140 or 135 it would put to rest alot of my doubts about him. Beats arguing about who he did or didnt duck for whatever reason

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Pacquiao was 112 lbs when he was 18

Pacquiao is smaller weaker guy going against Diaz....that takes balls

Like Mayweather is the smaller/weaker guy vs Delahoya?

[Domain]

Pacquiao was 112 lbs when he was 18

Pacquiao is smaller weaker guy going against Diaz....that takes balls

even though pacman loses he should have the adoration of all BOXING fans! this is the type of guy boxing needs in the heavywegiht divsion.

Pacman also is a special fighter he never had a trainer he would hit rice bags and taught himself how to fight...while mayweahter was trained as a boy he grew up privileged with great trainers.

Pacmans path is far more impressive to me and he will be remembered 20 years from now because of that.

it is sad tonight will be the decline of the pacman.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Actually I would be completely kool with that. If floyd could unify 140 or 135 it would put to rest alot of my doubts about him. Beats arguing about who he did or didnt duck for whatever reason

Who could he go fight at 135/140 today to put your questions to rest?

[Motofan]

I think he will be when it's all said and done. The knock against him is that the great fighters he beat were all past there best. Not his fault, he beats whoever they put in front of him. Pac will keep on fighting the best guys he can until he retires, and I think he ends up with one of the best resumes in history.