Is Bernard Hopkins a smart fighter?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #21
    Originally posted by abadger
    No. He won that one because he was too big. He had a clear advantage in the fight, afforded by his size and didn't have to do anything particularly 'smart'. A better example of his smartness would be the way he managed to be competitive with Calzaghe despite clearly not having the stamina to stand and box for 12 rounds.
    Did you watch the fight? I dont think you did.

    He was absolutely brilliant; timing Tito's footwork with a stiff jab, countering, foot movement, EVERYTHING!

    Shame on you - how do you follow boxing?

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      #22
      Originally posted by warp1432
      Size wasn't a factor. Bernard's movement gave Trinidad big ass problems and the jab too. Even when the knockdown came, it was a PERFECT right hand counter. And Trinidad was being punished before that.

      I had the fight a shutout, but you could have given round 6 to Trinidad. Not really sure how people scored round 1 for trinidad because both pretty much landed nothing minus that right hand Hopkins landed.
      That is absurd. It was the single biggest reason that Hopkins won the fight.

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        #23
        Originally posted by abadger
        No. He won that one because he was too big. He had a clear advantage in the fight, afforded by his size and didn't have to do anything particularly 'smart'. A better example of his smartness would be the way he managed to be competitive with Calzaghe despite clearly not having the stamina to stand and box for 12 rounds.
        Man, did you watch the fight? It's not as if he simply out muscled Tito, he won on skill and skill alone. He was the better man in every department. Tito owned a belt and looked awesome his previous fight at middleweight. I never liked this excuse from the anti-hopkins crowd because it completely over looks the fact that hopkins was the better fighter, period. If it was simply a matter of hopkins out muscling trinidad or being too physical, then it would be an acceptable excuse, but that's not what happened. Hopkins was superb that night and would have beat anyone imo.

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          #24
          To the person who asked what were Hopkins' best fights - I'd refer to Glen Johnson and the masterful way he broke down John David Jackson.

          Hopkins from 97-99 was incredible.

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            #25
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Did you watch the fight? I dont think you did.

            He was absolutely brilliant; timing Tito's footwork with a stiff jab, countering, foot movement, EVERYTHING!

            Shame on you - how do you follow boxing?
            Jesus ****ing christ! OK, Hopkins being too big for Tito had nothing to do with the outcome of that fight, its a ridiculous opinion.

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              #26
              Originally posted by abadger
              Jesus ****ing christ! OK, Hopkins being too big for Tito had nothing to do with the outcome of that fight, its a ridiculous opinion.
              Get real. You said it was size and size alone and then followed it up by saying he didn't do anything particularly smart.

              Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous and anyone who WATCHED the fight would agree.

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                #27
                Originally posted by abadger
                That is absurd. It was the single biggest reason that Hopkins won the fight.
                Naww. He outboxed tito and out fought him in every way. You make it sound like he was just a big dude who walked through all of his shots and just mauled him.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by abadger
                  Jesus ****ing christ! OK, Hopkins being too big for Tito had nothing to do with the outcome of that fight, its a ridiculous opinion.
                  again, have you watched the fight? If it was a matter of hopkins being too bing and strong, he would have simply bullied tito. That's not how he won the fight. Tito was the aggressor and trapped hopkins in the ropes multiple times, but hopkins made tito miss constantly and threw beautiful counters.

                  tito couldn't land a flush shot on hopkins because of his defense, which again was top notch that night.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by abadger
                    That is absurd. It was the single biggest reason that Hopkins won the fight.
                    You haven't watched the fight I take it? Bernard used the ring perfectly and he had great defense. If Trinidad was so undersized, how was he able to knockout William Joppy in 5 rounds? He wasn't.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by natas206
                      Man, did you watch the fight? It's not as if he simply out muscled Tito, he won on skill and skill alone. He was the better man in every department. Tito owned a belt and looked awesome his previous fight at middleweight. I never liked this excuse from the anti-hopkins crowd because it completely over looks the fact that hopkins was the better fighter, period. If it was simply a matter of hopkins out muscling trinidad or being too physical, then it would be an acceptable excuse, but that's not what happened. Hopkins was superb that night.
                      Good post. Every time Tito did something good, Hopkins did double of what he did. I remember Tito got left hook to the head, then **** jab straight to Tito’s face he was in shocked and took a couple of steps back. Hopkins completely out thought Tito that night.

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