James Toney a ATG?

[Silencers]

you right it's hard to keep a debate going in your favor when you been exposed and proved wrong

you may not care what i think, which is fair, i sure as hell dont care about the crap you think or post

but perhaps

you should look at the poll numbers to get a better picture, and for the record i havent voted yet. LOL

OK, as I have said before to you, think what you like.

[Scott9945]

Toney is a sure thing for the HOF so I guess you can label him an ATG. It's all relative to what your personal standards are for that status.

[Boogie Nights]

OK, as I have said before to you, think what you like.

20 TO 4 scary isnt it?

see ya son

[Silencers]

20 TO 4 scary isnt it?

see ya son

Very scary, I'm shaking in my boots.

[Boogie Nights]

Very scary, I'm shaking in my boots.

it'll be okay

[MWMerlino]

Besides the fact that he is my favorite boxer, he is definitely an all time great. Even with his weight issues he made the competition look foolish. He is only one of two men to knock out Evander Holyfield. His record is an impressive 70-6.

Talking on the steroids...please. The steroids had nothing to do with what won him matches--arguably the best defense in boxing history. He didn't hide behind his gloves and slow matches to a standstill. Toney used a combination of slips, shoulder rolls, head movements, bending a side stepping to dodge punches and throw counter punches. And if he did get hit, the guys chin was amazing. Even at 39 years of age the young knockout artist Sam Peter couldn't get Toney to the canvas. He has never been KO'd and has seen the mat only once in 80 bouts against Jones Jr.

He was 44-0 before his first loss.

[mrpain81]

I have to say yes, even if you don't consider his win against John Ruiz. Toney went from Middleweight and competed against some of the best heavyweights in his day atleast on even terms. I know alot of people who thought he deserved the decision against Peter the first fight.

[Kilrain]

Three weight world champ, former top pound-for-pounder, went from middleweight to heavyweight with success, hell yes he's ATG, look at his resume, he went 2-0-1 with Mike McCallum, beat prime Reggie Johnson, Michael Nunn, put a beating on Barkley, Holyfield, Jirov, Guinn, Rahman, Ruiz... this thread is null and void

[KILLA RIGHT]

WTF??????? Am i looking at this **** right? No way is he a all time great. He's good but not a all time great

[MWMerlino]

WTF??????? Am i looking at this **** right? No way is he a all time great. He's good but not a all time great

Explain? What do you consider All Time Great and why doesn't he meet criteria?