Berto will replace Mayweather.

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  • Winkyftw!
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    #51
    Originally posted by Bad_Barracuda
    Agreed.

    Not only can Berto punch..he doesn't need a lot of room to generate KO power..with either hand.

    The big names at 147 are THERE TO BE HIT.
    His chin isn't good enough for that. People are blinded by the attraction of power in this sport, but the veil is pulled away right when people realize that there is to boxing than power. This guy needs to work on the other aspects of boxing. Plus Berto cannont adjust. Or at least I haven't seen him ever adjust. If he fights a smart guy that takes him off his gameplan, or if he is constantly pressured with a good stiff jab, he'll lose as of today. Hopefully he can improve alot though, because he would be good for the sport. As of now I see another guy blinding the boxing community with flasy knockouts against bad to average fighters.

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      #52
      Originally posted by flodistheshizle
      I agree,Cotto would beat Berto and Berto defense needs work.But i don`t think it would be easy for Cotto.Berto has fast hands and Cotto defense is not super spectacular.Berto in my opinion has fast enough hands and skills to catch Cotto and keep Cotto honest.

      Cotto is not a one punch K.O artist so he would have to wear Berto down
      but in between the fight i think Berto hand speed and underrated offensive skills would catch Cotto a lot.
      How are his offense skills underrated? Everyone is always talking about how great his offense is. Cottos speed in underrated. And berto would miss with his right ( he throws it often when nothing is there) and get caught with a left hook either to the head or the body. I don't see him as a tough fighter ( he looked lost in the fight he got knocked down in) and his chin would get demolished by cotto. He's never faced a guy with speed jab and power.

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      • flodistheshizle
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        #53
        Originally posted by Winkyftw!
        Quintana can move and counterpunch very well. He is a very good boxer, and berto would be confused as hell with all the movement. His right shoots out fast, but he lacks dicipline with it. He throws it when nothings there, and he's a little slow bringing it back. Quintana would pop the **** out of him with the straight counter. Also, Berto's chin is very suspect. I think most top welterweights can get his attention.
        But Berto cuts the ring off very well and is a good body puncher and would slow Quintana down with the body shots forcing Quintana to stand and fight later on. Then Berto bashes his face and body in leading to a knockout.


        Quintana is not a puncher and Berto would be able to handle his shots and would take punches from Quintana in order to land his own.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Bad_Barracuda
          Berto is a harder puncher than Cotto..way faster too.

          I have seen what Cotto does to his opponents..and I still think he doesn't punch as hard as Berto.

          I just can't see an old Shane walking through the heat Berto throws.

          Mayber you're right...Cotto would have stopped Rodriquez in 2...and I'll bet Andre does the same to Alpnonso Gomez.

          Berto is one of those guy you just cannot let hit you with anything.

          Sure his defense is ****..but so is Tony's and Cotto's..
          Still man, I respect your opinion and I am not trying to get into an argument here but there is no way that I believe that Berto hits harder. I guess we will have to wait and see if they duke it out to settle it

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            #55
            Maybe this comparison won't make sense to some but I think Berto- if he's the new anyone- could be the new Roy Jones, Jr. In what way? Well, I don't think he's as technically gifted as Floyd. Anyone who thinks that is blind. He IS naturally athletic not unlike a young Jones, Jr. , though. I mean, Andre has the type of speed that you're born with- and all his defensive and technical flaws seem to be - at least currently- shielded by by his natural reflexes; just like Roy Jones Jr.'s were for years. I just mean to say that Berto hasn't proven a lot....but he has displayed amazing physical assets and yet still a few glaring weaknesses.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Njord777
              Maybe this comparison won't make sense to some but I think Berto- if he's the new anyone- could be the new Roy Jones, Jr. In what way? Well, I don't think he's as technically gifted as Floyd. Anyone who thinks that is blind. He IS naturally athletic not unlike a young Jones, Jr. , though. I mean, Andre has the type of speed that you're born with- and all his defensive and technical flaws seem to be - at least currently- shielded by by his natural reflexes; just like Roy Jones Jr.'s were for years. I just mean to say that Berto hasn't proven a lot....but he has displayed amazing physical assets and yet still a few glaring weaknesses.
              I understand where you're coming from, Jones Jr's reflexes were on another leaque. Jones would never have been hit by some of these guys that are hitting Berto. I think he's a very poor mans jones as of now. He's not even NEAR his athleticism though. He gets hit 1000 times more than Jones did.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Winkyftw!
                I understand where you're coming from, Jones Jr's reflexes were on another leaque. Jones would never have been hit by some of these guys that are hitting Berto. I think he's a very poor mans jones as of now. He's not even NEAR his athleticism though. He gets hit 1000 times more than Jones did.
                Oh no- I completely agree with you. But the thread was comparing Berto to Mayweather. I think any comparison is premature and unwarranted but, if you have to pick a fighter that I think he in some fashion resembles, I think it's more of the raw athletic marvel of a Jones, Jr. than the technical mastery of a Mayweather. You're correct, though, Roy displayed even more of the explosive athleticism. I was just making the comparison in terms of the thread's theme.

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                  #58
                  You are jumping to conclusions way too fast. Berto doesnt have Mayweathers two best attributes, defence and intelligence

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                  • Winkyftw!
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by flodistheshizle
                    But Berto cuts the ring off very well and is a good body puncher and would slow Quintana down with the body shots forcing Quintana to stand and fight later on. Then Berto bashes his face and body in leading to a knockout.


                    Quintana is not a puncher and Berto would be able to handle his shots and would take punches from Quintana in order to land his own.
                    Berto has a **** chin. That style of fighting will get his ass handed to him soon. Watch the Cosme Rivera fight.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Njord777
                      Maybe this comparison won't make sense to some but I think Berto- if he's the new anyone- could be the new Roy Jones, Jr. In what way? Well, I don't think he's as technically gifted as Floyd. Anyone who thinks that is blind. He IS naturally athletic not unlike a young Jones, Jr. , though. I mean, Andre has the type of speed that you're born with- and all his defensive and technical flaws seem to be - at least currently- shielded by by his natural reflexes; just like Roy Jones Jr.'s were for years. I just mean to say that Berto hasn't proven a lot....but he has displayed amazing physical assets and yet still a few glaring weaknesses.

                      I agree with you, I think berto is a lot closer to Roy jones than Mayweather, Technically i dont think we would see a fighter who comes close to Mayweather for a while.

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