Does everyone still believe in Pavlik's one punch power?

[Dorian]

But anyway, I don't see Pavlik knocking Winky out or alteast knocking him down. Winkys D is top notch and his chin is GREAT

If u say Pavlik has a shot to win by Ud you won't get a argument from me

[Fox McCloud]

What has Winky done to deserve a shot at the undisputed middleweight championship?

First, hes coming off a LOSS.Then he hasnt dont anything in the divison since 2006 when he got a DRAW with Taylor.Imo he lost that fight. Before that he had a close fight with Sam Soliman?

Winky is still living off the 2004 wins of beating a very out sized Mosley.

I think his place at middleweight was held when he got that controversial draw against Taylor. A lot of people thought Wright won (not all), so a lot of people (The Ring included) have Wright in the top 2 of the division behind Pavlik.

He was the unified, undisputed 154 champ, moved up, took out the 160 version of Trinidad to earn the #1 spot, and then the Taylor thing happened.

While he did lose, it was at 170, which a lot of people blame on him moving up too far in weight.

I'm not making excuses, but I think that is the basic reasoning you can use to justify Wright getting the shot at Pavlik.

Really though, it's not like anyone else at 160 has distinguished themselves from the rest of the crowd to gain that #1 spot clearly. Abraham has a controversial win with Miranda that he is taking care of right now, Sturm has been up and down at the weight.

160 is kind of a downer of a division right now.

[WLAD OWNS]

This thread is mainly about everyone who is predicting Pavlik to beat Wright picking it by KO.

I just don't see someone landing a flurry of hard punches on steel-chinned Wright to KO him, but that is just me.

Pavlik is a nightmare matchup for Winky....Winky has never faced a big,strong huge puncher with a relentless workrate like Pavlik.

If there is anybody that can KO/TKO Winky, it's Pavlik.

[Silencers]

I think his place at middleweight was held when he got that controversial draw against Taylor. A lot of people thought Wright won (not all), so a lot of people (The Ring included) have Wright in the top 2 of the division behind Pavlik.

He was the unified, undisputed 154 champ, moved up, took out the 160 version of Trinidad to earn the #1 spot, and then the Taylor thing happened.

While he did lose, it was at 170, which a lot of people blame on him moving up too far in weight.

I'm not making excuses, but I think that is the basic reasoning you can use to justify Wright getting the shot at Pavlik.

Really though, it's not like anyone else at 160 has distinguished themselves from the rest of the crowd to gain that #1 spot clearly. Abraham has a controversial win with Miranda that he is taking care of right now, Sturm has been up and down at the weight.

160 is kind of a downer of a division right now.

Still though, he hasn't beaten a middleweight in nearly 2 years, Abraham is more deserving of a shot right now, especially if he gets by Miranda again.

[Trevbutler]

Many times. Here's a video showing some Pavlik one punch KOs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQu0sr0oNLg&eurl=http://www.teampavlik.com/videos.html

He's actually KOed a lot of people with one punch earlier in his career.

More recently, he's been up against some contenders with strong chins. Let's not forget, he was the first to stop Lockett, Taylor, Miranda, Zuniga and Zertuche - these people are more difficult to KO with one punch.

And like another person said, it's wiser to gradually take people down with a series of punches, than to throw a haymaker and leave oneself wide open.

Actually I only saw one punch in that video that could maybe be called one punch KO.

One punch power means someone goes from being perfectly fine, to knock out in one punch. Not hurt with one punch, but then takes 3 more to go down.

[Darkstar]

I think his place at middleweight was held when he got that controversial draw against Taylor. A lot of people thought Wright won (not all), so a lot of people (The Ring included) have Wright in the top 2 of the division behind Pavlik.

He was the unified, undisputed 154 champ, moved up, took out the 160 version of Trinidad to earn the #1 spot, and then the Taylor thing happened.

While he did lose, it was at 170, which a lot of people blame on him moving up too far in weight.

I'm not making excuses, but I think that is the basic reasoning you can use to justify Wright getting the shot at Pavlik.

Really though, it's not like anyone else at 160 has distinguished themselves from the rest of the crowd to gain that #1 spot clearly. Abraham has a controversial win with Miranda that he is taking care of right now, Sturm has been up and down at the weight.

160 is kind of a downer of a division right now.

I actually want to see the fight. I want Pavlik to get credit when he does beat him and not to hear winky was shot. Im not sure Winky could even make 160 anymore. Also the fact that hes boring and brings in no money.

The WBC has him at #9 and hes not even in the top 15 in the WBO. I dont think he deserves the title fight but he is a big name. For the record I dont think Pavlik will KO him. I think a mid-close UD for Pavlik, depending on the style the judges like.

[roundingace]

I love how some of the earlier posters said Miranda was one of their picks for hardest one punch KO artist - yet did you guys actually watch the Pavlik/Miranda fight? Miranda landed some absolute BOMBS flush on Kelly's chin. Kelly's chin is good and Edison doesn't hit THAT hard. IMO, Kelly has the more accurate punches which are more powerfull. One punch KO's aren't what he tries to do, as someone posted. He beats you by the volume and work rate AS WELL as having bricks for hands.

[Trevbutler]

I believe one punch knockout power is not really a good way to put it. It takes a punch to be placed on the button to put someone down like that. A lot of guys have power, but that power takes a few shots to knock some guys down if its just randomly placed punches to the head. But a good hard shot right on the chin is usually what does it.

[Fox McCloud]

Still though, he hasn't beaten a middleweight in nearly 2 years, Abraham is more deserving of a shot right now, especially if he gets by Miranda again.

I half agree with you. If Abraham had ANY good wins that didn't have a trillion asterisks on them (Miranda), I would have him ahead easily... he still might because of current activity in the division.

Really, I think the only thing that has him in the talks is the good performance he put on against Taylor, and people's beliefs that the Hopkins fight was partially to be blamed on weight.

[Silencers]

I half agree with you. If Abraham had ANY good wins that didn't have a trillion asterisks on them (Miranda), I would have him ahead easily... he still might because of current activity in the division.

Really, I think the only thing that has him in the talks is the good performance he put on against Taylor, and people's beliefs that the Hopkins fight was partially to be blamed on weight.

I agree, I think people are remembering how he did in the Taylor fight but the truth is he hasn't been in the ring for almost a year and hasn't beaten a middleweight in almost 2 years, I'd like to see him work his way back to contention before getting a shot at Pavlik.