UFC VS Boxing (VIDEO)

[sunthunder]

I can understand that. I mean MMA can have some of the craziest turnarounds look at what happened with Brock Lesner and Frank Mir. But I think it's much harder to make a turnaround in a fight like boxing or sports like judo and wrestling cause there is no other discipline that you can turn to.

But I'll tell you smth, right now MMA has the best athlete in all combat sports and his name is George St. Pierre. I am a fan of MMA only cause of exceptional athletes and fighters like GSP, Silva, Emalianenko and Couture.

Just like there are boxing fans who follow the sport only cause of guys like Mayweather and Roy Jones I follow MMA the same way.

I appreciate what you're saying about watching specific parts of combat, and seeing them trained and specialised to their highest level, where they become art forms.

I also think though that MMA itself is an art in some respects. There is an aspect of MMA, which in my mind only GSP and Fedor have really tapped into in their fighting styles, and that is the way they mix fighting styles. The way Fedor for example, throws his straight right which leads straight into a body lock and a throw. I think the blending of the arts can be as much an art as the individual styles themselves.

Guys like GSP and Fedor, they are the prototypes for the next generation of fighters, and as you say, truely great athletes. We haven't yet arrived at the generation of MMA fighters who train specifically for MMA from the age of childhood. MMA is still a relatively young sport, in the future I believe we'll see extremely talented, athletic young kids view it as a viable career path and train specifically for it, and then we'll see athletes the calibre of GSP fighting eachother, and when that happens MMA will truely be great to watch.

[-Swizzy-]

2 different sports. I believe ufc is just using the popularity of boxing to gain publicity and boxing ppl are dumb enough to go along with it.

I personally love both sports but I like boxing more. at the same time though, I think ufc will take over boxing in popularity because it is MUCH better managed. boxing needs to be run by a central organization or everyone(promoters/managers, boxers) need to just collectively agree to put great fighters in the ring against great fighters early and often.

making great fights seems to be taking a back seat to creating over blown records and especially money. if that could be changed, I believe ufc doesn't stand a chance against boxing if you want to compare ppv buys. but essentially, I don't think those sports should be compared. I think its like comparing basketball to soccer. both are great sports, but why argue on which sport is better. both sports are great and enjoyable in a different way.

[-Swizzy-]

I also think though that MMA itself is an art in some respects. There is an aspect of MMA, which in my mind only GSP and Fedor have really tapped into in their fighting styles, and that is the way they mix fighting styles. The way Fedor for example, throws his straight right which leads straight into a body lock and a throw. I think the blending of the arts can be as much an art as the individual styles themselves.

and don't forget anderson silva. gsp vs silva, now that is an mma dream fight.

[pesticid]

and don't forget anderson silva. gsp vs silva, now that is an mma dream fight.

Dana White wouldn't let it happen though.

[sunthunder]

and don't forget anderson silva. gsp vs silva, now that is an mma dream fight.

Anderson is without a doubt one of the top and most skilled fighters in MMA, but I just don't see that quality in him to be honest, not to the same extent GSP and Fedor exhibit it. Anderson is more effective because his striking is deadly and his grappling is deadly, it's not the same as with Fedor, that everything works in one slick motion, punch to throw to submission/ground and pound. Anderson in my mind either beats you on the feet or on the ground, just by outclassing you in both worlds.

His stand-up is so flowing and beautiful, and without a doubt among the best MMA has ever seen, but for me, he doesn't flow between that and his submission/wrestling game to the same extent GSP and Fedor do. I'm not saying it's something he can't achieve, that kind of flow, but for me, he's just not quite there. Kid Yamamoto is a fighter who comes close to showing the kind of flow and blending of styles that I'm thinking about.

[Trevbutler]

Its as simple as this for me. I tried watching UFC, I liked it sometimes. But the majority of the time I was fastforwarding through 5min of two guys in the missionary position. So I quit watching it. I dont think I would mind the wrestling part as much if they were only allowed enough time to take someone down and immediately attempt a submission. But I'm sorry, I'm not going to watch two sweaty guys hump on the ground for 95% of a round.

[KJB]

lmao, lou di bella shut rogan up in the first comment

p.s. mma is gay/ dry humping

Not really man, your just ignorant. MMA is a legitmate combat sport just like boxing.
In boxing we have wizard like technical battles with that hands, in MMA its more about a well rounded approach to every aspect of a real fight. That said, there have been several MMA grapplers and strikers with world class ability in there own department.
MMA isnt just a bunch of wild brawler, the FACT IS ITS A GRAPPLING BASED SPORT BECAUSE THATS HOW REAL FIGHTS END UP, THEREFORE WE SEE LESS TECHNICAL STRIKING DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF CROSS TRAINING.
MMA fighters have to train in many more dimensions.
Could they beat boxers in a boxing match? No.
Could boxers beat MMA fighters in an MMA match? No.
In a street fight? Who knows. But more often than not a grappler beats a striker, if you want proof watch the early UFCs.
And for those of you who refer to grappling as gay humping, many of my friends said the same before the tried it with me and I had them giving up before being choked out or having their arms and legs broken.
I guess Im saying IF grappling is so gay, I dare ANY of you to challenge and Brazillian JiuJitsu BlackBelt to a real fight. He will cripple you with little effort.

[Trevbutler]

Not really man, your just ignorant. MMA is a legitmate combat sport just like boxing.
In boxing we have wizard like technical battles with that hands, in MMA its more about a well rounded approach to every aspect of a real fight. That said, there have been several MMA grapplers and strikers with world class ability in there own department.
MMA isnt just a bunch of wild brawler, the FACT IS ITS A GRAPPLING BASED SPORT BECAUSE THATS HOW REAL FIGHTS END UP, THEREFORE WE SEE LESS TECHNICAL STRIKING DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF CROSS TRAINING.
MMA fighters have to train in many more dimensions.
Could they beat boxers in a boxing match? No.
Could boxers beat MMA fighters in an MMA match? No.
In a street fight? Who knows. But more often than not a grappler beats a striker, if you want proof watch the early UFCs.
And for those of you who refer to grappling as gay humping, many of my friends said the same before the tried it with me and I had them giving up before being choked out or having their arms and legs broken.
I guess Im saying IF grappling is so gay, I dare ANY of you to challenge and Brazillian JiuJitsu BlackBelt to a real fight. He will cripple you with little effort.

I think many think its gay because I dont know many straight guys that like to wrestle with other guys. I'm sure it hurts, I think your missing the point though. I wrestled as a really young kid with my brother and friends. But once I got older I kinda realized that I didnt want someone else's junk sitting on my chest or stomach.

Now that I am 26 I shake mens hands, manly hug maybe on certain occasions. But I'm not going to grab around on another guy. Matter of fact if I went up to any of my friends or people I knew and asked them if they wanted to wrestle they would call me a *** most likely.

[Danny Gunz]

Whoever says boxing skills are worth nothing in a street fight are in for a big ****in surprise if they get in a streetfight with a boxer. Street fights always start standing up throwing punches and it takes less than 30 seconds to knock someone out in a street fight.

And i hate how people say real fights end up on the ground, because the worst street fights ive ever seen are the ones that end up on the ground

[shadeyfizzle]

I think many think its gay because I dont know many straight guys that like to wrestle with other guys. I'm sure it hurts, I think your missing the point though. I wrestled as a really young kid with my brother and friends. But once I got older I kinda realized that I didnt want someone else's junk sitting on my chest or stomach.

Now that I am 26 I shake mens hands, manly hug maybe on certain occasions. But I'm not going to grab around on another guy. Matter of fact if I went up to any of my friends or people I knew and asked them if they wanted to wrestle they would call me a *** most likely.

I've competed in just about every combat art there is my whole life and the fact is grappling is much more physically demanding than any striking art as far as physical conditioning goes. punch a heavy bag for 5 mins straight 1 day then carry it around for 5 mins straight without putting it down the next day and see which is more tiring