Winky Wright: "Oscar De La Hoya Can't Run Anymore"

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  • ferocity
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    #71
    Originally posted by SinatraFan
    I don't know where de la Hoya would fight him, at 160? I doubt Oscar would move up for anyone in his last fight.
    So you saying Winky is too big for Delahoya?

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      #72
      Originally posted by ferocity
      The Vargas fight was close, but when your the contender come at the champion at him for 12 rounds. but Winky was feeling the heat Vargas was bringing, Vargas stepped it up from round 9 and on and won the fight. He pressed the fight. From vargas performance and the hurt he was putting on winky i though Taylor was going to ko winky, but vargas must hit harder then taylor or his punchs are much better timided and better technique.
      I thought Wright did come at Vargas pretty hard for the 7 round I believe he won. He definately wasn't running in that fight. I also didn't see Winky actually hurt in that fight, although Vargas landed like a million punches in the last 4 rounds.

      Taylor just wasn't able to connect, I don't think that had **** to with power. HBO saw him landing a bunch of punches that were blocked IMO.

      By the way, I don't think either fight was a robbery, just close fights that I felt Wright won. I understand that it is easier to score on a TV than at ringside... and in the Vargas fight particularly, I think some judges might have expected more from Vargas and less from Wright, and subconsciously that affected what they thought they were actually seeing... Just like the ringside judges who gave Tyson the fight round against James Douglas.

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        #73
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        Wouldn't it be great if mandatories were always people like Ouma instead of Wright having to waste his time fighting Candelo or Hernandez, whichever one was actually his mandatory?



        I just remember I was surprised about what you had to say about the Chavez fight.

        I don't score, but the way you score is definately way different from anyone else that I have seen. It almost seems like you take points away for "running" as you call it.

        I have no idea how you gave Antonio Tarver 6 rounds and an even round against Hopkins to secure a draw for him either... that fight was a massacre. Hopkins was relentless and Tarver was lethargic and lazy.
        Ouma was Winkys mandatory for his title. I think even in the Mosley fights they mention this.

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          #74
          Originally posted by ferocity
          The Vargas fight was close, but when your the contender come at the champion at him for 12 rounds. but Winky was feeling the heat Vargas was bringing, Vargas stepped it up from round 9 and on and won the fight. He pressed the fight. From vargas performance and the hurt he was putting on winky i though Taylor was going to ko winky, but vargas must hit harder then taylor or his punchs are much better timided and better technique.
          Yeah Vargas won round 11

          try to not use the "i love las carnitas de fernando" T-shirt when you watch one of his fights........

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            #75
            Originally posted by ferocity
            Ouma was the #1 mandatory for Winkys title for over 1 year before Trinidad before Hopking. After Molsey, Winky could have defended his mandatory which in boxing Ouma was a very feared contender(forget what happened later) Ouma was feared and considered the best or 2nd bests light middlewight. Winky already beat Mosley clearly!!! and what does he do? He ducks Ouma(mandatory) and fights Mosley again and beat him again. Dropping his title(or stripped) for not fighting Ouma.

            In other words winky always obssessed how people are ducking him but he is the one doing the ducking. He talks about being ducked but he ducked Ouma. There was a time that even Daniel Santos was ducked and wanted to fight Winky and Winky turned down the Santos fight.
            Man, I hear your argument...but I disagree with you whole heartly...I could see if Winky fought a lesser opponent. It really doesnt make sense man..Not at all.

            WRIGHT DUCKED OUMA!!

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              #76
              Originally posted by ferocity
              So you saying Winky is too big for Delahoya?
              Oscar has been fighting at 150-154, whereas Winky can't even make 154. His last fight was at 170 where he was competitive with a fighter (Hopkins) that Oscar couldn't really be competitive with.

              Yes, Winky is too big for him.

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                #77
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                Vargas landed like a million punches in the last 4 rounds.
                round 10 to be precise......round 12 was a clear Vargas round as welll, but round 11 was one of the clearest rounds for Wright....

                round 9 was relatively close and i would favor Vargas...

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by ferocity
                  i did an error on scorring forgot to take a point from tarver. so hopkins won by 1 point. still the fight was close.
                  I'm extremely surprised that you have that scorecard...

                  You say that Whitaker ran too much and didn't do any effective work, but I thought he was a lot sharper than Tarver was against Hopkins.

                  Tarver did his usual bit of moving, but he was about as far from sharp as I have ever seen him. Lethargic jab, no snap in his punches, etc.

                  I just don't understand how Whitaker gets so little credit from you in his fights, but you give Tarver so much against Hopkins.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr
                    Man, I hear your argument...but I disagree with you whole heartly...I could see if Winky fought a lesser opponent. It really doesnt make sense man..Not at all.

                    WRIGHT DUCKED OUMA!!
                    I know you didnt' follow Ouma at the time but Ouma was feared. Of course later we find out he's not as good as we thought he was. **** happens. Im just taking you back to the time where Ouma was feared. Call it what you will Winky has no right to talk about being ducked. And him as a boxer who he says was ducked, he sure ducked Ouma and got stripped of his belt.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by DWiens421
                      I'm extremely surprised that you have that scorecard...

                      You say that Whitaker ran too much and didn't do any effective work, but I thought he was a lot sharper than Tarver was against Hopkins.

                      Tarver did his usual bit of moving, but he was about as far from sharp as I have ever seen him. Lethargic jab, no snap in his punches, etc.

                      I just don't understand how Whitaker gets so little credit from you in his fights, but you give Tarver so much against Hopkins.
                      Hopkins was the one moving away from Tarver throwing in 1 or 2 shots then hugging. You get no points for that.

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