If Manny Pacquaio wins a 4th belt, will he be ranked higher than Morales or Barrera?

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  • Jose Rizal
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    #171
    Originally posted by MayweatherJr.
    Just a question. Besides fighting other, who did Morales and Barrera beat to be considered higher than the flip?
    Nobody really who reached the status of MAB, EM, JMM or Pac, but I won't consider the other names worth mentioning in their records as chumps. There were a lot of good victims.

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      #172
      Originally posted by boofdatruth
      The proof I offer is how Barrera fought against Pac, and how he fought in the past. If Barrera fought the same way he fought in the past, then I'm wrong. Don't be confused by barrera's age. Imo Barrera was not at his best. As far as Sasakul, I don't know how good he was. He seems to be good, and has a good record, but he is 38 today. I mean he lost, and won against yuri arbachakov and i have at least seen Yuri fight. But nobody has seen Sasakul except diehards. He may be good. But Pac had been ko'd twice before that win i believe. Morales and Barrera didn't lose until they fought top notch comp. Don't you think Pac has to do more to be ranked higher than those guys in history??
      At the time he fought Pac, Barrera was concensus #1 featherweight and was the Ring's "People's Champ" and widely held at least a top-3 p4p fighter. So him fighting the same way in the past is a big "IF." He also had back-to-back losses in his prime to a prime fighter named Junior Jones before.

      The KO losses of Pac are always being brought up and they are indeed a stain on his record, but that Pac is so far removed from the present day version of him. First KO loss I still hold today as a LOW BLOW. Him slamming the back of his head hard on the canvas didn't help either. The 2nd KO loss was when he lost his title at the scales. The failed effort to drain himself to make weight took a lot out of him before the fight and it was a body punch that took him down for the count.
      Last edited by Jose Rizal; 06-14-2008, 07:38 PM.

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        #173
        Originally posted by Jose Rizal
        He wants Hatton more.

        Who's this John you're talking about?
        Just to lose and blame it on the weight.

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          #174
          Originally posted by Jose Rizal
          At the time he fought Pac, Barrera was concensus #1 featherweight and was the Ring's "People's Champ" and widely held at least a top-3 p4p fighter. So him fighting the same way in the past is a big "IF." He also had back-to-back losses in his prime to a prime fighter named Junior Jones before.

          The KO losses of Pac are always being brought up and they are indeed a stain on his record, but that Pac is so far removed from the present day version of him. First KO loss I still hold today as a LOW BLOW. Him slamming the back of his head hard on the canvas didn't help either. The 2nd KO loss was when he lost his title at the scales. The failed effort to drain himself to make weight took a lot out of him before the fight and it was a body punch that took him down for the count.
          28 year old Barrera vs. 33 year old pac on his 70th fight. Barrera would win that fight easily.

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            #175
            hahaha losers. wishing an old barrera would fight pac. what for? the ***** is retired. he was sent to retirement by pacquiao with a fat paycheck.

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            • Jose Rizal
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              #176
              Originally posted by RichLoc
              28 year old Barrera vs. 33 year old pac on his 70th fight. Barrera would win that fight easily.


              That's another pointless "could've been" wishful thinking that will never happen. Stick to reality son.

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                #177
                Originally posted by RichLoc
                Just to lose and blame it on the weight.
                Like anyone can say that MAB in his Pac rematch: Just to lose and blame it on age.

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by boofdatruth
                  The proof I offer is how Barrera fought against Pac, and how he fought in the past. If Barrera fought the same way he fought in the past, then I'm wrong. Don't be confused by barrera's age.
                  Barrera fought Pacquiao in the same fashion as he got his biggest wins against Morales and Hamed. Pacquiao simply battered Barrera into a pulp and never lets him get into a rythm. And yet this same Barrera knocks out Paulie Ayala and beats Morales again immediately afterwards. Thats just not possible even for the great Barrera unless he was in peak physical condition.

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                    Barrera fought Pacquiao in the same fashion as he got his biggest wins against Morales and Hamed. Pacquiao simply battered Barrera into a pulp and never lets him get into a rythm. And yet this same Barrera knocks out Paulie Ayala and beats Morales again immediately afterwards. Thats just not possible even for the great Barrera unless he was in peak physical condition.
                    save ur sweat bro. no matter how u try to explain it with facts, sore losers will always stick to being ****** and a ****ing ******.

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                      #180
                      Pac would never get the credit he deserve.

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