If Manny Pacquaio wins a 4th belt, will he be ranked higher than Morales or Barrera?

[shadeyfizzle]

I haven't seen any of Pc's fights when he was younger, only footage. I don't know how good those guys were. I know he won and was stopped in those fights. As far as the rest of his resume, he needs to do more in order to be ranked with those guys. Those guys had complete careers. Pac is still fighting. Some posters are getting mad and arguing about race and all that stuff, i don't get down like that. Pac is going to receive criticism now, and in the future. Get used to it. Comparing all 3 guys careers, Pac has to do more. That's all. I'm black, so that race card crap won't work with me.

Sasakul is a former world champ and still ranked in the top 5 by 3 of the 4 major sanctioning bodies at his weight today. Pacquiao beat Barrera in his prime. I dare you to show proof otherwise.

[Jose Rizal]

I haven't seen any of Pc's fights when he was younger, only footage. I don't know how good those guys were. I know he won and was stopped in those fights. As far as the rest of his resume, he needs to do more in order to be ranked with those guys. Those guys had complete careers. Pac is still fighting. Some posters are getting mad and arguing about race and all that stuff, i don't get down like that. Pac is going to receive criticism now, and in the future. Get used to it. Comparing all 3 guys careers, Pac has to do more. That's all. I'm black, so that race card crap won't work with me.

I don't see why he has to do more to overtake the 3 M's (Marco, Morales and Marquez). He already has by the mere fact that he has them all notched up in his resume as victims not to mention the manner he did it (5 wins, 1 loss, 1 draw, 3 KO's, 13 KD's against none). No other names in their respective lists would compare to the 3M's. All the other names are just gravy.

[Jose Rizal]

Sasakul is a former world champ and still ranked in the top 5 by 3 of the 4 major sanctioning bodies at his weight today. Pacquiao beat Barrera in his prime. I dare you to show proof otherwise.

"Prime" and "Past Prime" are words or terms being tossed around too much to kind of rain on Pacquiao's parade... as if most of the notable names in the resumes of let's say MAB and EM were all prime when they beat them. It sucks to argue that way about your fighter, doesn't it? It makes those who use that tact sound desperate to justify their idols' losses and at the same time belittling the efforts of a single rival who beat them.

[Boofdatruth]

Sasakul is a former world champ and still ranked in the top 5 by 3 of the 4 major sanctioning bodies at his weight today. Pacquiao beat Barrera in his prime. I dare you to show proof otherwise.

The proof I offer is how Barrera fought against Pac, and how he fought in the past. If Barrera fought the same way he fought in the past, then I'm wrong. Don't be confused by barrera's age. Imo Barrera was not at his best. As far as Sasakul, I don't know how good he was. He seems to be good, and has a good record, but he is 38 today. I mean he lost, and won against yuri arbachakov and i have at least seen Yuri fight. But nobody has seen Sasakul except diehards. He may be good. But Pac had been ko'd twice before that win i believe. Morales and Barrera didn't lose until they fought top notch comp. Don't you think Pac has to do more to be ranked higher than those guys in history??

[Boofdatruth]

I don't see why he has to do more to overtake the 3 M's (Marco, Morales and Marquez). He already has by the mere fact that he has them all notched up in his resume as victims not to mention the manner he did it (5 wins, 1 loss, 1 draw, 3 KO's, 13 KD's against none). No other names in their respective lists would compare to the 3M's. All the other names are just gravy.

We are talking about Pac being ranked higher in history right now right? You have Pac ranked higher than barrera and morales? Right now?

[Boofdatruth]

"Prime" and "Past Prime" are words or terms being tossed around too much to kind of rain on Pacquiao's parade... as if most of the notable names in the resumes of let's say MAB and EM were all prime when they beat them. It sucks to argue that way about your fighter, doesn't it? It makes those who use that tact sound desperate to justify their idols' losses and at the same time belittling the efforts of a single rival who beat them.

I am not a fan of barrera, morales or Pac. I respected them. I just think judging a fighter now rather than at the end of their career is futile.

[BOLLOCKS]

I don't see why he has to do more to overtake the 3 M's (Marco, Morales and Marquez).

The three oldies takes? Why doesn't pac fight Guzman,John, or Valero?

[Jose Rizal]

The three oldies takes? Why doesn't pac fight Guzman,John, or Valero?

He wants Hatton more.

Who's this John you're talking about?

[MayweatherJr.]

Just a question. Besides fighting other, who did Morales and Barrera beat to be considered higher than the flip?

[Jose Rizal]

We are talking about Pac being ranked higher in history right now right? You have Pac ranked higher than barrera and morales? Right now?

Yeah I have him ahead of MAB, EM and JMM this very moment and he's still got some legroom to accomplish more.