If Manny Pacquaio wins a 4th belt, will he be ranked higher than Morales or Barrera?

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  • Boofdatruth
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    #101
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    Pacquaio wiped Barrera out when Barrera was in his prime IMO, even with his terrible one-handed style.

    But yes, the prime 4 would have been excellent to have in a huge round robin affair.

    But why the **** is Hamed there and Marquez not? Have you lost your mind?
    Barrera was not in his prime. His age does not represent what he has been through ring wise. I understand you like Pac and all, but you need a serious education on what morales and barrera have done in their careers starting with who they fought.

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      #102
      Originally posted by DWiens421
      Man, apparently I'm on my own in thinking that Pacquiao starting at 108 and winning a 130 Ring title as well as ABC belt is as great as I think it is.

      Morales and Barrera were both basically 122 fighters, and neither really fought the stellar type of competition that would transcend making that many jumps in weight successfully.
      How many titles did he win at those weights, and who were the good boxers that you saw that he beats in any of those weights early in his career? Maybe they were good, but i don't know.

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      • nelsoncm
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        #103
        Originally posted by RichLoc
        Ricky will show the Mexicans how it's done.
        You can always ask Ricky to fight Jermaine Taylor next.

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #104
          Originally posted by nelsoncm
          You can always ask Ricky to fight Jermaine Taylor next.
          nah......

          i wanna see pavlik-hatton 2009.

          hatton to save british honour...... bloody welsh!

          the welsh are no better than them drunk irish wankers.





          GO RICKY!!!

          WAR HITMAN!!!!!!

          GOD SAVE THE QUEEN AND GOD BLESS RICKY HATTON!!!!!!

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            #105
            Originally posted by boofdatruth
            How many titles did he win at those weights, and who were the good boxers that you saw that he beats in any of those weights early in his career? Maybe they were good, but i don't know.
            there lies the problem, you don't know. and you only know what you wanted to know.

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            • Boofdatruth
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              #106
              Originally posted by Bogler
              there lies the problem, you don't know. and you only know what you wanted to know.
              So you know? Because if you don't know, how can you tell others, what they don't know?

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                #107
                Originally posted by Bogler
                there lies the problem, you don't know. and you only know what you wanted to know.
                bingo.

                you're wrong on this one boof.

                at flyweight manny beat chansakul (spelling? i think i murdered his name) who was considered #1 by most at that weight class at the time.

                at superfeatherweight he beat ledwaba for the ibf 122. it was on hbo because hbo was trying to push lehlo as the next big thing. obviously manny proved he wasn't. lehlo was a solid superfeather and definitely top 5 in the division.

                you obviously know who he beat to get the ring belt at 126 and so on......

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                  #108
                  I love Barrerra but Manny beat him twice and for Morales he ended his career so he is in my book already better.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                    bingo.

                    you're wrong on this one boof.

                    at flyweight manny beat chansakul (spelling? i think i murdered his name) who was considered #1 by most at that weight class at the time.

                    at superfeatherweight he beat ledwaba for the ibf 122. it was on hbo because hbo was trying to push lehlo as the next big thing. obviously manny proved he wasn't. lehlo was a solid superfeather and definitely top 5 in the division.

                    you obviously know who he beat to get the ring belt at 126 and so on......
                    I didn't get to see the chansakul fight, or any of his fights at a lower weight. I only saw highlights, and those guys were not on the level of a mckinney or even an old zaragoza. I just know that pac lost twice. Lehlo was a showcase fight which i have on tape, and Pac brutalized him. Pac's comp in his early years at lower weights, you have to dig deep to watch. Those guys don't compare to who morales and barrera fought early in their careers. Pac has a long way to go before he gets to their status.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Chuckguy
                      I love Barrerra but Manny beat him twice and for Morales he ended his career so he is in my book already better.
                      That's a shame.

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