Pavlik would be more of a challenge for Joe
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This fight has to happen.
Destroying Pavlik will finally help Calzaghe get the respect he craves and rightfully deserves.
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im british and although i rate calzaghe as a very good fighter I think he gets blown way out of proportion by many
pavlik has his flaws, however he maximises he strenghts probably better than anyone else in boxing right now.
i'd pick pavlik by stoppage anywhere between 8 and 10
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Pavlik doesn't need to be that fast anyway, he throws 80 punches a round. That's the same punch output as Calzaghe, just consistent instead of in quick little flurries.
I know his last opponent wasn't a good gauge to measure him by, but has anyone noticed that Pavlik's crispness and accuracy have gotten better? He doesn't waste much as his shots are loose, but there's still enough power there. He also looks very comfortable at 160. Conversely, Calzaghe would probably hit Pavlik a lot, though doing little to wobble him.
I would rather see Pavlik reign as a middleweight champion instead of weight-hopping, as is the popular thing nowadays. Let him fight Abraham, and let JoeCal fight RJJ as a battle for their era. Both have beaten B-Hop already, so they are the only ones left. Even if Joe lost, would his legacy be tarnished? I don't understand the obsession with eliminating fighters from the GOAT discussions just because they lose once or twice. Same has happened to RJJ, even though he was 35 when he lost.
It's not smart to put Joe up against a young guy who is primed and getting better, though. It's a little late for that.
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Originally posted by Brassangel View PostPavlik doesn't need to be that fast anyway, he throws 80 punches a round. That's the same punch output as Calzaghe, just consistent instead of in quick little flurries.
I know his last opponent wasn't a good gauge to measure him by, but has anyone noticed that Pavlik's crispness and accuracy have gotten better? He doesn't waste much as his shots are loose, but there's still enough power there. He also looks very comfortable at 160. Conversely, Calzaghe would probably hit Pavlik a lot, though doing little to wobble him.
I would rather see Pavlik reign as a middleweight champion instead of weight-hopping, as is the popular thing nowadays. Let him fight Abraham, and let JoeCal fight RJJ as a battle for their era. Both have beaten B-Hop already, so they are the only ones left. Even if Joe lost, would his legacy be tarnished? I don't understand the obsession with eliminating fighters from the GOAT discussions just because they lose once or twice. Same has happened to RJJ, even though he was 35 when he lost.
It's not smart to put Joe up against a young guy who is primed and getting better, though. It's a little late for that.
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Originally posted by Bad_Barracuda View PostYou got that right.
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Originally posted by Brassangel View PostPavlik doesn't need to be that fast anyway, he throws 80 punches a round. That's the same punch output as Calzaghe, just consistent instead of in quick little flurries.
I know his last opponent wasn't a good gauge to measure him by, but has anyone noticed that Pavlik's crispness and accuracy have gotten better? He doesn't waste much as his shots are loose, but there's still enough power there. He also looks very comfortable at 160. Conversely, Calzaghe would probably hit Pavlik a lot, though doing little to wobble him.
I would rather see Pavlik reign as a middleweight champion instead of weight-hopping, as is the popular thing nowadays. Let him fight Abraham, and let JoeCal fight RJJ as a battle for their era. Both have beaten B-Hop already, so they are the only ones left. Even if Joe lost, would his legacy be tarnished? I don't understand the obsession with eliminating fighters from the GOAT discussions just because they lose once or twice. Same has happened to RJJ, even though he was 35 when he lost.
It's not smart to put Joe up against a young guy who is primed and getting better, though. It's a little late for that.
I think putting Joe in against Kelly Pavlik is the smartest thing the Calzaghe camp could do right now.
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Originally posted by DURAN_IS_GOD View Postim british and although i rate calzaghe as a very good fighter I think he gets blown way out of proportion by many
pavlik has his flaws, however he maximises he strenghts probably better than anyone else in boxing right now.
i'd pick pavlik by stoppage anywhere between 8 and 10
If Joe was two years younger, I would give him the advantage. His legs though will not be able to escape Kelly the whole fight and I think at some point Joe will either get stopped on cuts, or be lucky to make it the distance.
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What happen with Calzaghe fighting Roy? I wanted to see this fight, even dough Roy jones is not in his prime I still think he would give Calzaghe hell! But a Pavlik vs Calzaghe would also be a great fight.
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