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  • Sage84
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    #21
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    NOBODY FROM CALZAGHE'S CAMP HAS SAID JONES HAS PRICED HIMSELF OUT.
    There was something on BBC sport not too long ago where Frank Warren mentioned that the price Jones Jr wanted wasnt realistic..

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      #22
      Originally posted by abadger
      Crikey! Calm down dude. It's just hearsay, I can't prove it, but its been said often enough.

      As for what I asked you it seemed that you were saying absolutely, definitely, Roy did not price himself out, and I wondered how you knew?

      If you didn't, you didn't. No problem. End of.
      It's been said where? Aside from Bernard Hopkins? Would this be the same Jones who took a lesser split to rematch Montell Griffin? The one who fought Felix Trinidad for no guaranteed money? Please. Hearsay? Well in this case the only people saying it are people on a message board.

      I know Jones has not priced himself out simply from what I have heard from insiders, coupled with what is obviously going on. Don't you think if Jones/King were giving Warren the business he wouldn't air them out? Think for a second.

      Jones' initial offer to Calzaghe has not changed from the offer faxed over PRIOR to the Hopkins bout - which is a 40% split for Jones and the share of the PPV, be it in the UK or USA. However, there was an issue with a rematch clause Jones requested IF the match was to take place in the UK.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Sage84
        There was something on BBC sport not too long ago where Frank Warren mentioned that the price Jones Jr wanted wasnt realistic..
        Link please.

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          #24
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Furthermore, I know ENOUGH to know that is not the case. Not that the onus is on me to prove anything.
          Yes it is, because you claimed

          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Who on this board made up the story that Jones priced himself out? This is unequivocally, absolutely false.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Clegg
            Yes it is, because you claimed
            Aren't you the same guy who ran away after asking me to prove what Bernard Hopkins said in another thread? Where were you when I provided the info?

            So if I say that joe Calzaghe is gay, the onus is on someone else to prove me wrong? GTFOH.

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              #26
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Link please.
              I cant be arsed digging for it to be honest lol....

              i only mentioned it in passing, just something i remember reading..its in the BBC sport archives if u wanna dig for it, i think it was a presser or interview with Warren about 2/3 weeks after the Hopkins fight.....

              and before u start, i know what i read

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                #27
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Aren't you the same guy who ran away after asking me to prove what Bernard Hopkins said in another thread? Where were you when I provided the info?
                You made a claim. I asked where you read it. You told me. What did you want me to do, make a points donation or something. Ran away...ok then

                By the way, wanna try answering what I said? Or you could try and find something else random to bring up, whatever.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  So if I say that joe Calzaghe is gay, the onus is on someone else to prove me wrong? GTFOH.
                  No, if you claim something you should have to back it up. You claimed

                  "Who on this board made up the story that Jones priced himself out? This is unequivocally, absolutely false."

                  therefore you have to back it up.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Clegg
                    You made a claim. I asked where you read it. You told me. What did you want me to do, make a points donation or something. Ran away...ok then

                    By the way, wanna try answering what I said? Or you could try and find something else random to bring up, whatever.
                    Answer what? Who are you? Are you bringing anything relevant to the discussion?

                    A poster claims Jones priced himself out. I am asking where he got the info from because based on what I know, this is false. The onus is not on me to prove it false, it is on him to prove it true. Or else we can all make silly claims and just respond by saying well prove me wrong. That is dumb logic.

                    So unless you have something to say other than that, GO AWAY. Yeah, there was nothing you COULD say after you were silenced. You requested the links because - LIKE NOW - you were trying to call BS. Unfortunately (and I'm sure you're used to this), you were WRONG.
                    Last edited by IMDAZED; 06-09-2008, 11:16 AM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Answer what? Who are you?
                      You're starting to sound a bit rattled there. Calm down.

                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Are you bringing anything relevant to the discussion.
                      Yep.

                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      A poster claims Jones priced himself out. I am asking where he got the info from because based on what I know, this is false. The onus is not on me to prove it false, it is on him to prove it true. Or else we can all make silly claims and just respond by saying well prove me wrong. That is dumb logic.
                      No, you clearly fail to understand. This is how it works: if you make a claim, you back it up. Here, I'll simplify it for you

                      Person 1: X is true
                      Person 2: Can you provide evidence?

                      Person 1: X is true
                      Person 3: No, X is false

                      Do you see the difference now? You are claiming that you are Person 2, when in fact you are Person 3. Yes, you asked someone to back up their claim, but you also made a claim of your own.

                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      So unless you have something to say other than that, GO AWAY.
                      No, I think I'll stick around. You seem like an arrogant loudmouth and I'm enjoying educating you.

                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Yeah, there was nothing you COULD say after you were silenced. You requested the links because - LIKE NOW - you were trying to call BS. Unfortunately (and I'm sure you're used to this), you were WRONG.
                      No, you're in the wrong. I am looking at the facts. These are the facts: I asked a question and got an answer. I wasn't proven wrong because, unlike you, I didn't make a claim. Yes? Si senor?

                      You on the other hand are looking at what you want to be true. I asked where you read something. You want to believe that I was calling you a liar, but I wasn't. I was interested in the subject. If you want to assume that anyone who asks for a link is calling someone a liar then go ahead, but that isn't how I see it.

                      I personally do not care either way if RJJ is hard to negotiate with, so I have no real preference either way.

                      Now try and calm down, TYPING LIKE THIS doesn't make you right. You've been proven wrong. You did not prove me wrong in the slightest.

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