The Great White Hope Bandwagon Makes Me Sick

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  • shadeyfizzle
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    #41
    I love the fact that Pavlik is the new great white hope. His appeal is in his vulnerability but dont be fooled because he is very good and very tough. The guy is as close to a real life Rocky Balboa as it gets. Every fight he always looks hurt but always gets up from the canvas and knocks fools out. His style is basic but what the **** else do you want from the kid?? You dont win a championship in any sport by getting fancy. Fundamentals win championships and noone is more fundamentally sound than Pavlik today.

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    • WLAD OWNS
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      #42
      I'm gonna state some facts here.....Pavlik is NOT "the great white hope".....Pavlik is the real deal and the best American fighter in boxing....The term "the great white hope" dosen't exist anymore, there are tons of great white champions in boxing.

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        #43
        Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
        I'm gonna state some facts here.....Pavlik is NOT "the great white hope".....Pavlik is the real deal and the best American fighter in boxing....The term "the great white hope" dosen't exist anymore, there are tons of great white champions in boxing.
        Im also going to state some facts. The term "great white hope" was coined to refer white AMERICAN fighters fighting black AMERICAN champions. While there are several white champs today, all but Pavlik are european therefore cannot be the great white hope. If Pavlik vs Calzaghe ever happens rest assured the buildup will revolve around these facts and Calzaghe will be greatly antagonized

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        • Flawless
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          #44
          Boxers calling themselves “The White Tyson” shows that boxers today in the heavyweight division wish they could emulate the previous eras. That’s SAD

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          • cuzfozzy
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            #45
            Pavlik is not another great white hope. he can really fight. all the other
            fighters got famous simply because they were white. Pavlik on the other
            hand can really fight and he earnt his way to what he has become today
            no one handed anything to him unlike the other white hopes. white hope
            only goes to those fighters that got the breaks because of their color
            Pavlik has fought and beat the best in front of him and done it in
            convincing fashion. for that all boxing fans should be glad
            that in Pavlik we have a throwback fighter fighting in this day and age.
            he is truly dedicated to the sport of boxing and you can see it
            in his victories.

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            • cuzfozzy
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              #46
              its an insult to Pavlik and Calzaghe to call them white hopes. white hopes are when some promoter takes any old white guy and puts them in against bums to build their records .... and they can't really fight a lick ....
              Pavlik and Calzaghe are true professionals and they give the sport of boxing a good name . they aren't there to hold or lie down or get paid
              they are there to win and to fight the best.

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              • Froch You
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                #47
                Originally posted by mt102879
                So racism is ok when the situation isn't the norm? Keep in mind blacks used to be barred from tennis and golf that's why it's a little different.
                Did I say racism was ok? When your a novelty like Tiger,Pavlik your going to sell more than the average white golfer or black boxer. Hell, Duddy made 150 thousand fighting Freddy Cuevas You say blacks were barred from tennis and golf which was wrong but whites have been long been stereotyped in boxing as not being able to "fight". Even people on here, I'm not going to name any names but people are calling the Middleweight Champion of the World a "white hope" And that shows their racial bias. A white hope is someone who gets exposed in a title fight and shouldn't have been there in the first place. Someone who had the complexion to get the connection. Definitely not Pavlik who had to fight 31 fights and go up against the likes of Zuniga,Zertuche, and Edison Miranda. Who did Taylor fight before Hopkins? Don't hate on Pavlik, it's not his fault he can attract the casual fans to the sport.

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                • rebmogul
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by INDA BAG
                  After the taylor fight the amount of pavlik avis multiplied by 100 and by another 20 or 30 after his last 2 fights.

                  And all the "Blue collar small town boy" bull**** from the boxing commentators etc is ****ing lame and very cheesy, they could just come out and say hey we finally got a white boy who's white american instead of spanish speaking guy, black guy, or russian guy.

                  The whole thing is nauseating and the sooner pavlik gets KTFO the better. Taylor shouldve finished the **** when he had the chance.

                  oh and he is good but definately overrated. the way he fights is basic and he's hittable dont forget taylor and miranda both put him down/hurt him bad

                  if he goes up to super mid he will get ktfo he's way too big for his division so thats inevitable. If Bernard is still around when he moves up he will school him.
                  he's great, he's white but there is no HOPING about it. Kelly Pavlik and Joe Calzaghe are the two baddest fighters on the PLANET. Followed by MIGUEL COTTO.

                  Sorry, your such a fanboy of FMJ who chose to go into protective custody rather than face Cotto and has gone into hiding. Pick a better hero next time and pull your bunched up panties out your pun crack....

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                  • MELLY-MEL...
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                    #49
                    go **** off u moron. take this racist **** the **** outta here.

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                    • neils7147933
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by INDA BAG
                      After the taylor fight the amount of pavlik avis multiplied by 100 and by another 20 or 30 after his last 2 fights.

                      And all the "Blue collar small town boy" bull**** from the boxing commentators etc is ****ing lame and very cheesy, they could just come out and say hey we finally got a white boy who's white american instead of spanish speaking guy, black guy, or russian guy.

                      The whole thing is nauseating and the sooner pavlik gets KTFO the better. Taylor shouldve finished the **** when he had the chance.

                      oh and he is good but definately overrated. the way he fights is basic and he's hittable dont forget taylor and miranda both put him down/hurt him bad

                      if he goes up to super mid he will get ktfo he's way too big for his division so thats inevitable. If Bernard is still around when he moves up he will school him.
                      The "white hope" is only applicable for American heavyweights.

                      Currently, the pound for pound top 5 fighters includes a white American, white Welshman, Phillipines native, Puerto Rican, and Mexican.

                      Not a brotha til the second half of the Top 10

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