Joe Calzaghe is now P4P #1

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Come on get ****ing real, if Calzaghe was from Indonesia and had the exact same resume and only fought in Indonesia do you really think he would even be top 10 P4P???? No need to answer because its purely rhetorical, we all know the answer to that.....


BTW, arent you a Brit too???? And who's Locket anyway???? Does that answer your questions????

Good point why isnt Chris John p4p king then? lol

he is undefeated defended his title and beat JMM...shouldnt that 1 win against a legend already make him p4p king?

thats funny cause thats all Calzaghe has is a win against a faded legend who is in his 40s!

but yet these people say he is p4p number 1 over pacman?

its lame they are just fanatics.

Pavlik should be ranked higher then Calzaghe to me.

[RichCCFC]

Good point why isnt Chris John p4p king then? lol

he is undefeated defended his title and beat JMM...shouldnt that 1 win against a legend already make him p4p king?

thats funny cause thats all Calzaghe has is a win against a faded legend who is in his 40s!

but yet these people say he is p4p number 1 over pacman?

its lame they are just fanatics.

Pavlik should be ranked higher then Calzaghe to me.

Because Chris John doesn't have 21 title defences, because Chris John has only beaten one "name", because Chris John is not undefeated for 18 years...

There is a lot of reasons.

[loui_ludwig]

According to the thread starter, Ricky, Joe C is now the #1 P4P. His a boxing fan, a Joe C fan. So to him Joe C is #1.

Lets just follow the P4P rankings of the media, the Ring Mag, Boxing Digest, Boxing Monthly, BoxingScene, ESPN, etc....

[P4PKING_2008]

For what? Losing to a past it hopkins? No chance.

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Because Chris John doesn't have 21 title defences, because Chris John has only beaten one "name", because Chris John is not undefeated for 18 years...

There is a lot of reasons.

oh so then 21 title defenses against who?

then sven ottke should be the greatest 168 pounder ever! he has many defenses and a 0.

[nycbigdog]

Because Chris John doesn't have 21 title defences, because Chris John has only beaten one "name", because Chris John is not undefeated for 18 years...

There is a lot of reasons.

You lost already..........I would take one JMM win than any or ALL of JC's 21 title defenses.... What were they, mailmen, construction workers, policemen?....Shiiiiiiiiiit, i dont care if JC beat the whole Village People, 21 faceless unskilled peons are just that.....nothing....

Chris John isnt even top ten P4p in many writers lists....And a Jmm win is a better win than anything Calzaghe has ever done...Imagine that....

[Left Hook Tua]

Because Chris John doesn't have 21 title defences, because Chris John has only beaten one "name", because Chris John is not undefeated for 18 years...

There is a lot of reasons.

unbeaten is overrated. brian nielsen was 49-0 once.

and joe had 21 title defences but the majority was the wbo. wbo might be considered somewhat of a major belt now but 10 years ago when joe won his belt the wbo was a joke. the wbc , wba and ibf wouldn't let their fighters fight wbo champs because of politics. that's why joe's defenses were not against top caliber opposition. obviously not a fault of joe's but more of his manager who protected him too much.

joe won his first belt when he won the vacant wbo title in '97. manny won his first belt a year later and it was the wbc flyweight title which he loss at the weigh in when he couldn't make weight. manny has been fighting top caliber opposition just as long as joe and they were much better opposition.

[Technical_Skill]

oh so then 21 title defenses against who?

then sven ottke should be the greatest 168 pounder ever! he has many defenses and a 0.

End of Story,

Wether you look at skill or resume, or both calzaghe isnt the best in boxing.

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unbeaten is overrated. brian nielsen was 49-0 once.

and joe had 21 title defences but the majority was the wbo. wbo might be considered somewhat of a major belt now but 10 years ago when joe won his belt the wbo was a joke. the wbc , wba and ibf wouldn't let their fighters fight wbo champs because of politics. that's why joe's defenses were not against top caliber opposition. obviously not a fault of joe's but more of his manager who protected him too much.

joe won his first belt when he won the vacant wbo title in '97. manny won his first belt a year later and it was the wbc flyweight title which he loss at the weigh in when he couldn't make weight. manny has been fighting top caliber opposition just as long as joe and they were much better opposition.

when pacman won his first belt the guy who beat Chatchai Sasakul was one of the best guy in the division at the time and pacman was just a baby and put a whooping on him .

[RichCCFC]

End of Story,

Wether you look at skill or resume, or both calzaghe isnt the best in boxing.

If you look at his nationality, then apparently he is not.