Comparing Roy Jones jr to floyd Mayweather jr in terms of all around skills

[pbftxrs316]

actually i think the jab roy used against ruiz is superior to any jab floyd has used... being he has faster hands and is more powerful, it just had more authority...

just because floyd uses it more, doesnt mean its better

what are you talking about really? roy used the jab better when he moved up to higher weight classes, i agree, but the jab he used against ruiz has nothing on the jab floyd used on gatti, jukko(just watch the 1st round of this fight), tony pep. floyd threw one of the most beatufiul jabs in history, especially at 130. he not only countered with jabs, while feinting, he jabbed to the body very well, he jabbed upstairs very well also, and he threw a few type of jabs, not only a flicking jab, but a power jab also. he has knocked people down with his jab like cooper in his 3rd fight. roy jones didn't have a good jab, face it, especially to the body. he used it a lot, don't give me that bull**** that he didn;t, because he did. he didn't block punches with his jabbing hand and counter with the same hand, like floyd did, he didn't jab better off of the ropes, like floyd did. he damn sure didn't feint with the jab better than floyd, upstairs or downstairs, and he damn sure didn't dodge a punch and followe up with a jab, the way floyd did. floyd had many tools, he polsihed everything effectively. his power was extremely deceptive, and had he not had brittle hands, he would have had more tjo's and ko's, no doubt it.

floyd could double and triple his jabs as well as hook off of his jabs, like he did aginst gatti, roy's jab was horrible overall for the most part.

[pbftxrs316]

Really, this is quite absurd. The only skills Mayweather possesses which is greater than Roy's are his jab and his defense. Everything else falls in ROy's favor. So how could he possibly be more skilled?

It IS an easy question. But you got it completely wrong.

In his prime, Jones was...

The best combination puncher in the game

The best body puncher in the game

The best footwork and guage of distance in the game

Even had the best defense in the game but I'll go with Floyd here because he uses a far more traditional style.

The art of boxing is to hit and not get hit. No one has done that better than Jones in the past 20 years.

floyd was the more fluent mover, and he didn't have to move as fast as roy because of his blokcing abilities and upperbody movement, floyd's accuracy was better than roy's. floyd had much better body positioning than roy did, seeing how his defense is much betters than roy's overall. floyd went to the body just as good if not better than roy did his jab alone proves this and floyd was the much sharper puncher, rarely threw a sloppy punch, roy has a lot thrown sloppy looking punches, and floyd fought better off of the ropes than roy, trust me.

mayweather takes this one because his skillset was always polished overall, and as far as him using a more taditional style of boxing, this may be true, butsome of the shots he threw weren't traditional like the ones he threw at gerano and corley in the 5th round and 8th round of those fights.

[Talon]

most people dont even know how fast roy really was you have to watch him when he was younger he makes floyd look slow

i also agree that roy was extremely skilled not all of his fights were showboating, some he was all business

they are both the cream of the crop

[IMDAZED]

floyd was the more fluent mover, and he didn't have to move as fast as roy because of his blokcing abilities and upperbody movement, floyd's accuracy was better than roy's. floyd had much better body positioning than roy did, seeing how his defense is much betters than roy's overall. floyd went to the body just as good if not better than roy did his jab alone proves this and floyd was the much sharper puncher, rarely threw a sloppy punch, roy has a lot thrown sloppy looking punches, and floyd fought better off of the ropes than roy, trust me.

mayweather takes this one because his skillset was always polished overall, and as far as him using a more taditional style of boxing, this may be true, butsome of the shots he threw weren't traditional like the ones he threw at gerano and corley in the 5th round and 8th round of those fights.

Whoa, whoa whoa. What the hell is a fluent mover?

Floyd's accuracy was better than Roy's? On what planet? Are you serious, dude? Even the faulty compubox numbers don't back this. Go back and look over Roy's reign at 168-175 when he was landing 55-60% of his shots regularly. Sloppy punches? LOL@you acting like you count sloppy punches.

Floyd a better body puncher than Roy? Wow, wow, wow. Listen dude, Floyd is good but he isn't even the best body puncher today. In his prime, Jones was, bar none, the best - especially during his LHW reign. Watch his bouts against Del Valle, Harmon, Telesco, Hill, etc. Come on man, I love them both but be objective, PBFtxrs!

[hemichromis]

I don't think there is even a question that Roy Jones Jr. has, thusfar, proven to be head and shoulders above Mayweather Jr. I don't think that Floyd can even come close to the explosive talent that RJJ had. But, I'll answer all of your questions.

1 - I think it's pretty close in terms of movement -- Floyd is good at running away, but RJJ was great at positioning himself and moving around the ring as well as using his great reflexes to move out of harms way. I'd give a slight edge to Roy Jones Jr.

2 - Again, while Floyd has decent timing and accuracy...this one probably isn't even close. Just look at the compubox during their primes. Roy Jones Jr. just knew exactly when to throw, his awkward angled punches and instincts allowed him to nearly hit at will. Don't get me wrong -- Mayweather is good, but not that good. Roy Jones Jr.

3 - Sharper and more precise? I won't go into long detail on this, but RJJ was a monster to the body and head whereas, while precise, Floyd is pretty feather fisted. Roy Jones Jr.

4 - Roy Jones Jr. is amazing off the ropes. Floyd is ok.

5 - This is one I guess I can give to Mayweather. Roy Jones Jr. had all sorts of holes in his defence, but because he could rely on his reflexes it was ok -- Mayweather is definitely more defensively sound.

6 - No question. Roy Jones Jr. was definitely quicker and 100x more powerful overall, and this is in terms of p4p.

7 - Again, this isn't even a question. Roy Jones Jr. faced better competition and was 100x more dominant in his prime...rarely losing a round let alone having disputed fights. It's not even really comparable.

8, 9, 10 & 11 - All these ones go to Roy Jones Jr. He worked the body way better with his vicious power, his hooks were insane, his straight right hand was perfect. Mayweather probably has a better jab, but Roy Jones Jr. was definitely better to watch and had better fights. Overall Roy Jones Jr. just blows Floyd out of the water without a question.

I agree with everything you just said!

roy jones in his prime was p4p the most impressive fighter by far and certainly on of the best, he is now a mere shadow of his former self.

floyd is an amazing fighter in his own right but jones will be remembered for longer

[THE REED]

what are you talking about really? roy used the jab better when he moved up to higher weight classes, i agree, but the jab he used against ruiz has nothing on the jab floyd used on gatti, jukko(just watch the 1st round of this fight), tony pep. floyd threw one of the most beatufiul jabs in history, especially at 130. he not only countered with jabs, while feinting, he jabbed to the body very well, he jabbed upstairs very well also, and he threw a few type of jabs, not only a flicking jab, but a power jab also. he has knocked people down with his jab like cooper in his 3rd fight. roy jones didn't have a good jab, face it, especially to the body. he used it a lot, don't give me that bull**** that he didn;t, because he did. he didn't block punches with his jabbing hand and counter with the same hand, like floyd did, he didn't jab better off of the ropes, like floyd did. he damn sure didn't feint with the jab better than floyd, upstairs or downstairs, and he damn sure didn't dodge a punch and followe up with a jab, the way floyd did. floyd had many tools, he polsihed everything effectively. his power was extremely deceptive, and had he not had brittle hands, he would have had more tjo's and ko's, no doubt it.

floyd could double and triple his jabs as well as hook off of his jabs, like he did aginst gatti, roy's jab was horrible overall for the most part.

why dont u do everyone a favor and settle your tone the **** down

[Live Dog]

I agree with everything you just said!

roy jones in his prime was p4p the most impressive fighter by far and certainly on of the best, he is now a mere shadow of his former self.

floyd is an amazing fighter in his own right but jones will be remembered for longer

Roy will be remembered as the guy that got touched up twice at the end of his career. As a guy who did not fight the best in his prime.

Floyd may well be remembered as not fighting the best as well, but he is not getting KO'd and history will remember him as the better fighter.

[THE REED]

Roy will be remembered as the guy that got touched up twice at the end of his career. As a guy who did not fight the best in his prime.

Floyd may well be remembered as not fighting the best as well, but he is not getting KO'd and history will remember him as the better fighter.

roy got KOed at 35? he made history going from MW to HW and back down to LHW... and floyd is 30? he will fight another 10 years

And roy moving up to heavyweight is more of a risk than anything floyd has done.. ruiz or no ruiz

[Live Dog]

Yeah, but if we're talking about head to head who is better and more dominant it goes to a Primed RJJ. Nobody could beat a primed RJJ head to head in history. Period. (Pound for pound of course, I would give the greatest heavyweights a shot at beating Roy since he was much smaller naturally).

Jesus, you're an even bigger fan than re****yaluss. Nobody in the history of the sport huh?

You do realize P4P means you take weight out of the equation?

[Live Dog]

roy got KOed at 35? he made history going from MW to HW and back down to LHW... and floyd is 30? he will fight another 10 years

And roy moving up to heavyweight is more of a risk than anything floyd has done.. ruiz or no ruiz

I know it happened when he was older (exact age I did not know), and that had a lot to do with it. But, the fact is it still happened, and when people think of Roy those images are part of it.