Comparing Roy Jones jr to floyd Mayweather jr in terms of all around skills

[pbftxrs316]

it's subjective. both fighters were great. no answer is correct and none is wrong. just goes by opinion.

gatti? sorry gatti was a solid , tough fighter but floyd is no ward. the outcome of that fight and how it went was foreseen by everyone who wasn't just hoping/dreaming/yearning/begging for a gatti win.

very true indeed, but you have to remember, floyd was moved uo in weight to fight gatti who had grown accustomed to the weight class. in terms of skill, it was no contest, that was obvious, but i looked at the performance floyd gave that night as the most one sided performance in many years. think about it though. gatti was the wbc jr ww champion, and floyd dismantled him in a very fluent manner. floyd mayweather rarely threw sloppy looking punches in his whole career, roy has shown that he could get sloppy in the ring. when i talk about sharp punches, i mean damn near perfectly thrown punches, and floyd showcased this in his fight with gatti. i have never seen roy jones throw a combo as beatiful as mayweather did in round 6 vs gatti, and i mean from his stance to how he threw the left hook to his body to begin the combo. his body positioning was just perfect, and he landed punches that only rare fighters could land and make it look as naturally thrown as a fish swims, which is why larry merchant claimied that floyd fights as naturally as a fish swims. his skillset and mindset is that sharp. and he didn't throw a single sloppy punch at gatti. his punches were thrown brilliantly throughout the whoe fight.

[Left Hook Tua]

wtf is that supposed to mean?

it's from chris rock. it's when he talks about the difference between being rich and being wealthy.

he says oprah is rich and bill gates is wealthy.

if bill gates wakes up one day with oprah's money he would jump out the window and slit his throat on the way down.

the threadstarter got the joke.

[Left Hook Tua]

very true indeed, but you have to remember, floyd was moved uo in weight to fight gatti who had grown accustomed to the weight class. in terms of skill, it was no contest, that was obvious, but i looked at the performance floyd gave that night as the most one sided performance in many years. think about it though. gatti was the wbc jr ww champion, and floyd dismantled him in a very fluent manner. floyd mayweather rarely threw sloppy looking punches in his whole career, roy has shown that he could get sloppy in the ring. when i talk about sharp punches, i mean damn near perfectly thrown punches, and floyd showcased this in his fight with gatti. i have never seen roy jones throw a combo as beatiful as mayweather did in round 6 vs gatti, and i mean from his stance to how he threw the left hook to his body to begin the combo. his body positioning was just perfect, and he landed punches that only rare fighters could land and make it look as naturally thrown as a fish swims, which is why larry merchant claimied that floyd fights as naturally as a fish swims. his skillset and mindset is that sharp. and he didn't throw a single sloppy punch at gatti. his punches were thrown brilliantly throughout the whoe fight.

i agree with some of your points. like i stated in my previous post floyd is more polished than roy.

but technically better doesn't always mean better. ali wasn't the best technically either. didn't stop him from being the greatest.

i know floyd's better in a lot of areas but i want to look at it from the perspective of roy and floyd being the same height , size , weight , etc.

who do i think will win? the 2nd best fighter from florida

as far as how he looked against gatti. he's a bad matchup for arturo. i think the best floyd i've seen was at 130 against chico but that's me.

[jpeck]

Jones had a very good jab, watch the Ruiz and McCallum fights.

Roy Jones at 168 had an *excellent* jab! He just stopped using it as much as his career progressed.

[Left Hook Tua]

Roy Jones at 168 had an *excellent* jab! He just stopped using it as much as his career progressed.

probably because of the speed of most light heavies?

not many of them were fast enough to avoid a lead right. why bother with the jab? floyd does the same thing at times.

[Mr. Philadel]

people on this forum cinsdier roy jones jr as arguably the most gifted fighter of his time, and mayweather as the most gifted fighter of his time p4p, so my question to all of you is who was better skillwise overall and why?

who had better upperbody movement and foot movement?
who had better timing and accuracy?
who punched sharper and precise to the body and the head, whether in combo form or potshot form?
who fought off of the ropes better?
who had better defense overall including countering?
who was more powerful and faster overall?
who was more dominant in their prime?
who punched to the body better?
who had the better straight right hand lead and left hook and jab upstairs and downstairs?
who knovked out their opponents better and won ud better?
who was just overall more skilled?

take all of these questions into account before answering the thread please.

who had better upperbody movement and foot movement? Roy
who had better timing and accuracy? Floyd
who punched sharper and precise to the body and the head, whether in combo form or potshot form? Roy
who fought off of the ropes better? Roy
who had better defense overall including countering? Roywho was more powerful and faster overall? Roy
who was more dominant in their prime? Roy
who punched to the body better? Roy
who had the better straight right hand lead and left hook and jab upstairs and downstairs? Roy
who knocked out their opponents better and won ud better? Roywho was just overall more skilled? Roy

[pbftxrs316]

roy jones used his jab against vonny paz, and it looked to be thrown just to throw, virgil hill, it looked sloppy, griffingit looked sloppy. many other fighters, it looked sloppy...

oh hell, i'll kust give my answer to my thread. i have watched both fighters fight many times over and i guarantee you all, me picking floyd mayweather jr over roy jones jr is justified.

1st, i have watched them both train, and i must say, floyd trains a hell of lot harder than roy did. floyd's padwork is the best in boxing, his jump rope routine is as amazing as you'll ever see. now, the reason i bring this up is because looking at how fighters trains helps you understand their styles in the ring. floyd is by far the more elusive and fluent fighter of the two, meaning his footwork and upperbody movement. roy jones was as about as dynamic as you'll ever see, but floyd meayweather's brilliance lied in his finesse as a fighter.

comparing their attributes as far as offensive skills...floyd mayweather takes this because even though roy jones attacked his opponent better and stronger, there is no way in hell he threw better looking body punches than floyd did. watch the justin jukko fight. watch the gatti fight. watch the gerano fight. floyd threw sharper looking punches as well as effective punches. roy had more power, which is a given, more handspeed, seeing how he threw many flurries and combos, but floyd was more econocial with his punches, this being the more accurate fighter, and yes, his jab much much better than roy jones, who did use his jab a lot but threw them in a flicking mannr like he was just trying to throw it out there. floyd threw the jab to the body well and very accurate, making his timing with eh jab much better than roy's also.

floyd also had a better lead right hand, again, making his timing better than roy's. i wish i knew how to uploads videos on here so i could put in fights from both fighters to help prove my points, but i don't. anyway, floyd threw better lead right hands which he became known for, and roy jones himself claimed that floyd was a complete fighter, and of course he claimed he was also, but when floyd fought gatti, roy jones compared the fight to his fight with vinny paz, and in no shapre or form did roy look as sensational and pure in that ring with vinny paz asa floyd looked with gatti. floyd mayweather's left hook and counter left hook was much better thrown. if you noice, roy jones thew his counter left hooks in a way where he turned his face away from his opponents, like he did with paz, but floyd's left hook was thrown at th eperfect time, and from a feinting position, and this was in the 2nd round people. go back and watch it. also, when he countered zabwith a left hook to the body in round 5 or 6 of their fight, just perfectly thrown, didn't look sloppy like roy's tended to do many times, and his body postioning was well placed.

regarding the left hook---this is a hard one for me, because roy jones was known for his lead left hooks and they were fast and hard and thrwon in bunches a lot of times, and floyd's were thrown in mainly single shot or double shots, but if you look at which was thrown better, floyd takes this one, but it is close.

who had more speed? handspeed--jones imo but not by much, i'll never forget floyd at 130-140, his speed was just amazing, and the only reason i gave roy better handspeed is because he threw more combos, and floyd was a deceptive puncher and his low punch output gave jones the edge, but overall speed goes to floyd, and many times he didn't have to use his feet in a fast oaced manner, because of how fast his upperbody movemtn was, but make no mistake about, floyd was faster than roy overall, no contest.

who fought off of the ropes better? floyd mayweather takes this one also, no doubt. with his shoulder roll defense and well times foot and upperbody placement, floyd could counter off of the ropes amazing like he did with gerano, and of course de la hoya in round 5 to be more specific. i'm not saying that he was invincible on the ropesd but he damn sure fought better than roy did ruiz on the ropes.

roy jones was mre offensive minded than floyd was which made him more dynamic than floyd was on offense, but he was also unorthodox, which made him look a little awkward at times, but it also made him the most unique fighter of his time, and was apart of his brilliance in the ring/ he had great power and speed and threw great combinations but floyd was more economical and didn't really waste punches at all, his reflexes and eyes were just cerebral, and he prided himself on punching sharp, which is why he had the padwrok he did with roger. his jump rope routing is special which made his footwork special. watch how he didges punches from chop chop off of the ropes, and dodged them beautifully, while landing punches against him. flody foguth better off of the ropes.

defense--no doubt---floyd takes this one and his defense is just as special as his offense, if not more. he fought on the inside better than roy did, his defense was a huge reason for this, from using his elbows to blocking with his power hand and countering back right away with an uppercut, jab, or hook up or downstairs, floyd's inside presence was somethng extraordinary. watch chop chop and chavez fights. roy has been knocked out 2ce, bur he was past his prime and weight drained, nonetheless, his skillset should have made up for it, but seeing how his defense minus his quick reflexes was suspect, i see why he lost. floyd's defense is the best in boxing as has been for years, not just dodging shots, but blocking shots very well, an dnot just with his shoulder on the ropes or arms on the ropes, floyd blocks very well in the middle of th rring and on the move like he did with bruselles and gatti, he could knock you jab down with his power hand like if you threw it to the body he could block it very naturally while moving away, or he could block it with his left hand and immediately follow it up with a jab with the same hand or a right hook upstairs. i have never seen roy jones combione all of these traits an duse them really effectively like floyd did, never. i'll continue later on today...

[abadger]

This is an easy question. Roy Jones is more athletically gifted than Floyd in every department.

Floyd Mayweather is a more skilled boxer than Jones, in every department.

[IMDAZED]

who had better upperbody movement and foot movement? Mayweather
who had better timing and accuracy? Roy Jones
who punched sharper and precise to the body and the head, whether in combo form or potshot form? Mayweather
who fought off of the ropes better? Mayweather
who had better defense overall including countering? Mayweather
who was more powerful and faster overall? Roy jones power and Mayweather speed
who was more dominant in their prime? Mayweather
who punched to the body better? Roy Jones
who had the better straight right hand lead and left hook and jab upstairs and downstairs? Mayweather
who knovked out their opponents better and won ud better? Mayweather
who was just overall more skilled?

Mayweather

You are clearly a Johnny Come Lately. When did you start following boxing, this century?

Go back and watch some Jones tapes from 93-98.

[IMDAZED]

This is an easy question. Roy Jones is more athletically gifted than Floyd in every department.

Floyd Mayweather is a more skilled boxer than Jones, in every department.

Really, this is quite absurd. The only skills Mayweather possesses which is greater than Roy's are his jab and his defense. Everything else falls in ROy's favor. So how could he possibly be more skilled?

It IS an easy question. But you got it completely wrong.

In his prime, Jones was...

The best combination puncher in the game

The best body puncher in the game

The best footwork and guage of distance in the game

Even had the best defense in the game but I'll go with Floyd here because he uses a far more traditional style.

The art of boxing is to hit and not get hit. No one has done that better than Jones in the past 20 years.