Had Judah beat Kostya, Spinks I & Mayweather (as well as Baldo)...

[squealpiggy]

it is a yes or no question about JUDAH.

No it isn't it's a Yes or Yes question about any fighter in the history of the world. Which is why it is ****ing ******.

Is Joe Frazier the greatest heavyweight of all time?

That's a yes/no question

If Joe Frazier had beaten Ali three times, beaten Goerge Foreman, Sonny Liston, Ken Norton, Floyd Patterson, Leon Spinks, Larry Holmes, and stuck around to defeat a young Mike Tyson would he be the greatest heavyweight of all time?

That's a yes/yes question because you change history to make it so.

[rj_ct]

i give judah props because even though he lost he at least tries to fight the best. the only man he ever ducked was margarito.

can you blame him? god himself would have ducked the tijuana tornado

[Silencers]

Hypothetically, it would make Cotto the best.

[oldgringo]

Hypothetically, it would make Cotto the best.

thats right

[Left Hook Tua]

The point I was trying to get at was, had he won his BIG fights, would he be the BEST fighter alive, right now? I know he is NOT, I am aware of that. His biggest pitfall was in the BIG fights.

well of course if he beat all those guys he'd be considered up there.

but you can say that about every top level fighter.

oscar had close fights in all of his losses. hell he did better against hopkins when he got koed than he did with poor felix. what would history have said about oscar if he won the mosley , trinidad , mayweather fights that were close?

hell , if naseem had just won ONE fight (barrera) and retired he'd be considered the greatest right now.

[COACH WEBB]

well of course if he beat all those guys he'd be considered up there.

but you can say that about every top level fighter.

oscar had close fights in all of his losses. hell he did better against hopkins when he got koed than he did with poor felix. what would history have said about oscar if he won the mosley , trinidad , mayweather fights that were close?

hell , if naseem had just won ONE fight (barrera) and retired he'd be considered the greatest right now.

You are right brah. I was basically asking, had he won his top fights, would he be the best RIGHT NOW. Not like the GOAT, but at this point of his career. I should have been more specific in the first post.

[luv3s2sp00g3]

Whenever zab fights, I want him to win more than anyone. I just can't quit on the guy. Yet he does nothing but break my heart.

[COACH WEBB]

Whenever zab fights, I want him to win more than anyone. I just can't quit on the guy. Yet he does nothing but break my heart.

you are not alone

[-Spectre-]

No cause Cotto beat him.

[luv3s2sp00g3]

As for your question, he would most definitely be the greatest alive. If he were to beat all the fighters you listed (especially tszyu and mayweather) then we're asking hypothetically if he were strong minded. Just consider his skillset minus his mental weaknesses in the ring: He's a southpaw that can put you on ***** street with one punch. AND hes got more explosive speed than Mayweather. I don't see how you can beat that. Goddamn you Zab.