Ricky Hatton....my Assesment.

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  • sunny31
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    #61
    Originally posted by CardioMonster
    Lennox wanted him to rematch Mayweather or retire. If Hatton had more head movement and was taught to slip punches he could have been great. In my opinion he is very good, but lacks the polish of a great fighter.
    You obviously haven't seen many of his earlier fights, his head movement and slipping use to be awesome, just think he has slowed in that area over time, probably due to his bad lifestyle

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    • CardioMonster
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      #62
      Originally posted by sunny31
      You obviously haven't seen many of his earlier fights, his head movement and slipping use to be awesome, just think he has slowed in that area over time, probably due to his bad lifestyle
      yes the effects of a bad diet are well known to affect ones ability to slip a punch. It has NOTHING to do with the quality of opponent

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        #63
        Originally posted by sunny31
        You obviously haven't seen many of his earlier fights, his head movement and slipping use to be awesome, just think he has slowed in that area over time, probably due to his bad lifestyle

        His level of opposition was so dire it was easy for him to have better head movement in his earlier fights, Whenever he steps up or his opponents isnt just there to pick up his payday Hatton struggles.

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        • CardioMonster
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          #64
          Originally posted by raycorey
          His level of opposition was so dire it was easy for him to have better head movement in his earlier fights, Whenever he steps up or his opponents isnt just there to pick up his payday Hatton struggles.

          exactly...

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            #65
            Originally posted by raycorey
            His level of opposition was so dire it was easy for him to have better head movement in his earlier fights, Whenever he steps up or his opponents isnt just there to pick up his payday Hatton struggles.
            It's always LAUGHABLE when people talk about Hatton like 'earlier in his career'.... WTF??!!

            Are you talking about 38 year old, 25-loss, Freddie Pendleton??? Or 40 year old Vince Phillips?

            Your ability isn't judged by beating bums... it is judged on how you do with top guys.

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            • sunny31
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              #66
              Originally posted by CardioMonster
              yes the effects of a bad diet are well known to affect ones ability to slip a punch. It has NOTHING to do with the quality of opponent
              Obviously it has to do with both, but he completely abandoned the head movement in a lot of the more recent fights, fighters like urango and castillo and collazo he could have moved his head much more, which many of the pundits have picked up on. Its not like he was trying to slip punches and was getting hit, he just wasn't doing it from the start, probably due to him slowing as a fighter, your first post made out that he never had it in the first place.

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                #67
                Originally posted by 1g5a22
                disagree...

                tszyu before aron(pass me that bottle)pryor for me,and i cant really split hatton and tszyu
                Kostya is over rated we can dissect his career if you like , he never beat a elite in prime fighter no superfights , not 1 ,, he got beat by Vince Phillips and quit on his stool , and you hold him over Pryor thats a joke for sure ,, the reason you do is simply to pump your Ricky agenda up ,, I could name quite few JW that would stop the limited ability Hatton cold ,, Hatton best ever JW is delusional , not even top 10 , he is a cherry picking fighter that tried one time against a real in his prime champ and got destroyed , people that say Hatton was great early in career , guys get real , its easy to look great with hand picked cans for **** sake , to use beating them as an entry for ATG is ignorant to the sport of boxing .

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                • sunny31
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                  #68
                  Thats like saying tyson never had good head movement, cos he never beat a top heavyweight during his prime.

                  If ricky hatton couldn't slip punches he wouldn't go very far being 5ft 6, 65 inch reach. He has the ability to do it against anyone, but his over eagerness has got the better of him on occassion, and that head movement has visibly slowed. the point is he has the ability.

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                  • CardioMonster
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                    #69
                    i agree, you can look at a fighter in his prime and almost disregard all but his last 10 fights. I mean fighting some guy at the local leisure centre isn`t something to hold up to scrutiny.

                    Hatton isnt an ATG. He hasn`t looked great in any of the big fights stateside. Castillo was looking for a way out. Tszyu was never going to win that fight because he cant box going backwards against someone pressuring him for 3 minutes a round.

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                    • CardioMonster
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by sunny31
                      Thats like saying tyson never had good head movement, cos he never beat a top heavyweight during his prime.
                      good point, but the HW division was a lot more glamourous back then than LWW is now. Tyson got kudos for destroying old men. I hope Hatton does start to slip punches and rematch Mayweather, I just havent seen him do it in the fights i have seen, which have been the big fights since Oliviera.

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