Ricky Hatton....my Assesment.

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    #41
    Originally posted by 1g5a22
    After Ricky Hatton's loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr., Lennox Lewis came out and was very vocal about the fact that Hatton should possibly consider retirement. At the time I felt the comment was out of sorts and not a very good assessment. After further review, I think that statement, although a bit premature, was a somewhat half decent assessment and may (and i do emphahise the word may) need to be revisited . My reasons for saying this is due to the fact that Hatton's tendencies and habits away from the ring don't support that of a fighter who plans to be on top for a great matter of time, and when he gets in the ring, it can be on show from time to time. This was very evident in his latest fight. I think he did what he had to do to win, and I think he made a huge step in recovery from such a humbling loss by jumping in the ring and battling it out with a very 'game' fighter, but in my observation there still seemed to be something that was not necessarily in place. I just have my questions about his ability to cope with a fighter for 12 full rounds who can make him miss and make him pay. Fortunately, Malignaggi can make him miss but doesn't have the power to necessarily make him pay, so Hatton still has a great chance at winning this fight. (when) he does manage to get past Malignaggi, I just don't know what else there is at the Jr. Welterweight division to keep Hatton hungry enough to compromise the many pints and chicken legs at the local pubs - (no pun intended) as i myself am a sucker for a pub lunch. Timothy Bradley I think would make for a very interesting fight against Hatton,and one which i think hatton would probably win ,but I seriously have my doubts about Hatton EVER being the Hatton that made us all adore him again. That 'vintage' guy I think is still buried somewhere beneath that grief that reared itself on December 8th of 2007. Only time will tell, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Goldenboy Promotions is currently building a U.K. wing somewhere at the GBP Headquarters to accommodate another fighter who seems to be content and motivated to step in the ring only when there's big money involved, otherwise choosing to promote talent in his homeland. Hatton has discussed his intent to begin a promotions gig far too often lately. It's not happening for nothing!

    when all is said and done though,i am a fan win or lose..

    the guy is a 2 weight world champion,has a record (by modern day standards) as good as most,fought some great fighters been in many boxing wars,unified HIS divsion in a pro career spanning over 10 years,he has proven and done all theres is to prove and do in the sport,he will be a loss to boxing not just for the entertainment value,the fan adoration,his worldwide apeal,his once ferocious style ....

    but simply the fact that he IS one of the greatest LWW the sport has ever seen and in my oppinion the biggest star in the sport today...

    a lot of fighters would do well to take a few leafs out of the hatton handbook.

    FOOTNOTEne of the thing that does make me smile about hatton is that once this generation and its many great fighters have faded away into the BHOF and minor obscurity,hatton will no doubt be on our screens in some form or another for years to come....thats why there is only one ricky hatton.
    I'm sure i've read this before somewhere?

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    • Live Dog
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      #42
      Originally posted by 1g5a22
      u really dont like hatton do ya??

      he has looked good,but in spurts!

      hes not superhuman, only time mayweather looked good of late was against hatton,its swings and roundabouts man

      hes aproaching 5o fights and has been a pro for 10 years and the amount of media work he does outside of boxing is phenomenol,the years catch up with ya at somepoint

      and because malinaggi will be too busy applying mascara and hiding his semi while ricky has him against the ropes,he would like that!!!!!!!!
      Anybody can look good in spurts. Given his performance as a whole in all of his fights since Kostya he has not looked good. I'm assuming you agree with me since you think he is old, overworked, etc....

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      • Gojira
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        #43
        Originally posted by Live Dog
        Anybody can look good in spurts. Given his performance as a whole in all of his fights since Kostya he has not looked good. I'm assuming you agree with me since you think he is old, overworked, etc....
        If Ricky fought mayweather when ricky won castillo or kostya and lost then fought floyd this year i think hatton would have a chance because pretty boys getting a bit to cushy because of the wrestling stunt and hatton would be as hungry a 500-year old man.

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        • 1g5a22
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          #44
          Originally posted by Live Dog
          Anybody can look good in spurts. Given his performance as a whole in all of his fights since Kostya he has not looked good. I'm assuming you agree with me since you think he is old, overworked, etc....
          assumption is the mother of all evils.......

          maussa was a weird one,very onorthodox and coming off that KO to harris hatton destroyed him

          collazo was a serious test,a slick strong boxer and his first test at welterweight and in the states,he won it but didnt make it easy,and had collazo on his ass in round 1

          urango(who cotto said was the strongest guy he ever fought in the amateurs) was still a little green, the old hatton was there in the early part but faded a little,still he was comprehensively beaten,iv no doubt urango will start to make serious waves soon ,look at his last fight!

          castillo,some can argue he is past his best,but no one exspected complete ownage like that fight,that was vintage hatton.

          mayweather, well we all know what happened there,hatton in the end was caught up in the hype himself..

          lazcano was a great fight,in which he fought a very game and underrated fighter,imagine the presure he was under with the old naz hamed syndrome hanging over the shoulders and 55,000 fans screaming your name..

          he is proving what a great champ does, get knocked down 7 times get up 8, he may be past his best, he may fight only once more who knows!!

          so the answer to your question is yes and no....such is life.
          Last edited by 1g5a22; 05-28-2008, 01:56 PM.

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          • Pullcounter
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            #45
            Originally posted by 1g5a22

            but simply the fact that he IS one of the greatest LWW the sport has ever seen and in my oppinion the biggest star in the sport today...

            a lot of fighters would do well to take a few leafs out of the hatton handbook.
            I just skimmed through what you posted... but Hatton is not one of the greatest light weights the sport has ever seen.

            if fighters want to be popular like hatton then they should take a leaf out of hatton's handbook.

            IMHO hatton should've came over to the U.S. earlier before he started to fade as a fighter and the 140 lbs division was still deep. We could've seen such fights at Hatton/Gatti and Hatton could've fought Cotto at 140 where he actually had a chance due to Cotto's chin at that weight. Hatton could've also racked up more points by beating guys like Bojado while he still had hype. Hatton might have actually had a better chance to beat Floyd at 140.
            Last edited by Pullcounter; 05-28-2008, 02:44 PM.

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            • 1g5a22
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              #46
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              I just skimmed through what you posted... but Hatton is not one of the greatest light weights the sport has ever seen.

              if fighters want to be popular like hatton then they should take a leaf out of hatton's handbook.

              IMHO hatton should've came over to the U.S. earlier before he started to fade as a fighter and the 140 lbs division was still deep. We could've seen such fights at Hatton/Gatti and Hatton could've fought Cotto at 140 where he actually had a chance due to Cotto's chin at that weight. Hatton could've also racked up more points by beating guys like Bojado while he still had hype. Hatton might have actually had a better chance to beat Floyd at 140.
              respect your opinion but disagree........

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              • AceNguyen
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                #47
                Ricky Hatton may be the most accomplished at junior welterweight(arguable, but I'm no boxing historian), but that's only because other great fighters have always used it as a stepping stone to higher weights. You can't tell me that Mayweather, Whitaker, De La Hoya, Duran, Shane Mosley, maybe even Cotto, etc., etc. wouldn't be favored in a fight against Hatton at that weight.

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                • 1g5a22
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by AceNguyen
                  Ricky Hatton may be the most accomplished at junior welterweight(arguable, but I'm no boxing historian), but that's only because other great fighters have always used it as a stepping stone to higher weights. You can't tell me that Mayweather, Whitaker, De La Hoya, Duran, Shane Mosley, maybe even Cotto, etc., etc. wouldn't be favored in a fight against Hatton at that weight.
                  im talking about established LWW's im not saying hes THE best but certainly one of them along with tszyu

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                    #49
                    Good thread man.

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                    • 1g5a22
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Broffy
                      Good thread man.
                      cheers kid...

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