Ricky Hatton....my Assesment.

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  • 1g5a22
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    #31
    Originally posted by Live Dog
    I think it was more so that Lennox fought at HW and fought a lot more in the States than Hatton.
    maybe.....

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      #32
      Originally posted by Live Dog
      It's not flawed. Hatton is not popular outside the UK, which in the grand scheme of things makes him not really popular at all.

      Lennox was much more popular than Hatton.
      Yes, it is flawed.

      The general public doesn't know who Tito, Mayweather etc is in countries outside U.S.

      They know Tyson here, and some know Lewis because Tyson made a big deal out of eating his children.

      RJJ? Hell no. Oscar? Nope.

      Hatton? Sure don't.

      So you saying Hatton being popular in Britain doesn't make him popular either goes both ways, or you are talking ****.

      Hatton may be known to a bigger number of people than Mayweather, or at least 80% of the fighters you claim to be popular, so in the irony of it, he might be more popular than most of the fighters from US.

      edit: Mayweather is stretching it to the moon.
      Last edited by tyson; 05-28-2008, 11:43 AM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by tyson
        Yes, it is flawed.

        The general public doesn't know who Tito, Mayweather etc is in countries outside U.S.

        They know Tyson here, and some know Lewis because Tyson made a big deal out of eating his children.

        RJJ? Hell no. Oscar? Nope.

        Hatton? Sure don't.

        So you saying Hatton being popular in Britain doesn't make him popular either goes both ways, or you are talking ****.

        Hatton may be known to a bigger number of people than Mayweather, or at least 80% of the fighters you claim to be popular, so in the irony of it, he might be more popular than most of the fighters from US.
        No offense man, but I didn't know Norway was a boxing hotbed.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Live Dog
          No offense man, but I didn't know Norway was a boxing hotbed.
          Few countries are.

          Norway consists of less people than in the average village in U.S.

          But if you change it around to the boxing public, everyone knows Hatton.

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          • Live Dog
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            #35
            Originally posted by tyson
            Few countries are.

            Norway consists of less people than in the average village in U.S.

            But if you change it around to the boxing public, everyone knows Hatton.
            Which is my point. Norway is a small country that knows Hatton. I'm talking about fighters that are popular world wide. Even people outside of boxing know who Ali, Tyson, ODLH are.

            Once again, I'm not hating on Norway, but to say that nobody in Norway knows RJJ isn't really saying much.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Live Dog
              Which is my point. Norway is a small country that knows Hatton. I'm talking about fighters that are popular world wide. Even people outside of boxing know who Ali, Tyson, ODLH are.

              Once again, I'm not hating on Norway, but to say that nobody in Norway knows RJJ isn't really saying much.
              Nobody in Norway knows Hatton.

              Not in Sweden either. Or Russia. Or China. Or Australia. Or South Africa.

              But the same goes to every current **** there is.

              Tyson was world wide, Ali was world wide.

              Not Mayweather. Not De La Hoya.

              You are suggesting that because those fighters are known in america, they are more popular than fighters who are known in Europe.

              That is hypocracy.

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                #37
                Originally posted by tyson
                Nobody in Norway knows Hatton.

                Not in Sweden either. Or Russia. Or China. Or Australia. Or South Africa.

                But the same goes to every current **** there is.

                Tyson was world wide, Ali was world wide.

                Not Mayweather. Not De La Hoya.

                You are suggesting that because those fighters are known in america, they are more popular than fighters who are known in Europe.

                That is hypocracy.
                You haven't read my posts. I said fighters like ODLH are known WORLD WIDE, not just America. Sure there are exceptions such as I'm not sure people in the Ukraine are buying Oscar's PPV's, but he and others are infinitely more popular than Hatton.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 1g5a22
                  After Ricky Hatton's loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr., Lennox Lewis came out and was very vocal about the fact that Hatton should possibly consider retirement. At the time I felt the comment was out of sorts and not a very good assessment. After further review, I think that statement, although a bit premature, was a somewhat half decent assessment and may (and i do emphahise the word may) need to be revisited . My reasons for saying this is due to the fact that Hatton's tendencies and habits away from the ring don't support that of a fighter who plans to be on top for a great matter of time, and when he gets in the ring, it can be on show from time to time. This was very evident in his latest fight. I think he did what he had to do to win, and I think he made a huge step in recovery from such a humbling loss by jumping in the ring and battling it out with a very 'game' fighter, but in my observation there still seemed to be something that was not necessarily in place. I just have my questions about his ability to cope with a fighter for 12 full rounds who can make him miss and make him pay. Fortunately, Malignaggi can make him miss but doesn't have the power to necessarily make him pay, so Hatton still has a great chance at winning this fight. (when) he does manage to get past Malignaggi, I just don't know what else there is at the Jr. Welterweight division to keep Hatton hungry enough to compromise the many pints and chicken legs at the local pubs - (no pun intended) as i myself am a sucker for a pub lunch. Timothy Bradley I think would make for a very interesting fight against Hatton,and one which i think hatton would probably win ,but I seriously have my doubts about Hatton EVER being the Hatton that made us all adore him again. That 'vintage' guy I think is still buried somewhere beneath that grief that reared itself on December 8th of 2007. Only time will tell, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Goldenboy Promotions is currently building a U.K. wing somewhere at the GBP Headquarters to accommodate another fighter who seems to be content and motivated to step in the ring only when there's big money involved, otherwise choosing to promote talent in his homeland. Hatton has discussed his intent to begin a promotions gig far too often lately. It's not happening for nothing!

                  when all is said and done though,i am a fan win or lose..

                  the guy is a 2 weight world champion,has a record (by modern day standards) as good as most,fought some great fighters been in many boxing wars,unified HIS divsion in a pro career spanning over 10 years,he has proven and done all theres is to prove and do in the sport,he will be a loss to boxing not just for the entertainment value,the fan adoration,his worldwide apeal,his once ferocious style ....

                  but simply the fact that he IS one of the greatest LWW the sport has ever seen and in my oppinion the biggest star in the sport today...

                  a lot of fighters would do well to take a few leafs out of the hatton handbook.

                  FOOTNOTEne of the thing that does make me smile about hatton is that once this generation and its many great fighters have faded away into the BHOF and minor obscurity,hatton will no doubt be on our screens in some form or another for years to come....thats why there is only one ricky hatton.
                  Great thread, a really good read with valid points raised and revisited! I think he will impress against Malignaggi, I hope Hatton vs. Pacquioa happens in the future!!

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                  • Live Dog
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                    #39
                    Hatton hasn't looked good since Kostya. Why do you think he will impress against Malignaggi?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Live Dog
                      Hatton hasn't looked good since Kostya. Why do you think he will impress against Malignaggi?
                      u really dont like hatton do ya??

                      he has looked good,but in spurts!

                      hes not superhuman, only time mayweather looked good of late was against hatton,its swings and roundabouts man

                      hes aproaching 5o fights and has been a pro for 10 years and the amount of media work he does outside of boxing is phenomenol,the years catch up with ya at somepoint

                      and because malinaggi will be too busy applying mascara and hiding his semi while ricky has him against the ropes,he would like that!!!!!!!!

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