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  • loui_ludwig
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    #31
    Look Pacquiao won by a split closed decision. That 1 knockdown gave Pac the win.

    As far as the media, even though they scored it for JMM, they said it wasn't a robbery. It was a closed fight that could have gone either way. Some even said that they must respect the judges decision and their decision must stand. They even said there rounds that are closed. Which means the rounds that they gave to JMM, they could have given to Pac. Remember also that if the media were together, don't you think they influence each other on the close rounds.

    Lets look at the Ring magazine. When they see a ridicilous decision going to wrong fighter(what we call robbery) or a big margin scoring, the Ring mag has a term for them. Its called a "MAGOO". If you read their magazine, in almost issue they have one. Examples of magoo:
    -Montiel vs Gorres, Montiel won but Ring mag and another mag has it for Gorres. Even with the 2 point deduction.
    -Casamyor vs Santa Cruz, Casa won but the Ring, other media had it for Santa.
    -Hopkings vs Forbes, Hop won but they had Forbes winning.
    -JMM vs Barrera, JMM won and the Ring mag had it also for him but they have it i believed 115-113(corrections please) while 1 or 2 judges had it by a 5 point margin.

    If you look also at the commenting of Jim Lampley. The way he comments on the fight, especially round 11, made the fans gave it to JMM. He said that JMM was landing rights. But if you look at the 11th round, JMM was landing air and at gloves.

    I had it 115-112 for Pacquiao. I gave the 11th to Pac but 12th to JMM. Even their first fight, i had Pac winning the fight. First time, 115-110, 2nd time, 114-111.

    As for the fans, when JMM said that the fans knew who won. On the LA TIMES article covering the fight, the Associated Press reporter mentioned that the fans are wrong people to base the fight. Fans is what they are, fanatics.

    Whether your a nuthugger, hater, or unbias, the rematch is already in the history book. Pacquiao won by a split decision. JMM might be above the skills of Pacquiao, but Pac's power won him the rematch.
    Last edited by loui_ludwig; 05-25-2008, 11:56 AM.

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    • muppetman
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      #32
      Originally posted by RiZOOM
      Well done, that's because it was a robbery.
      YES IT WAS THAT IS WHY HE WANTS ANOTHER FIGHT SO BAD.....MARQUEZ KNOW HE WON THE FIGHT AND WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO PROVE IT AND THAT IS WHY PAC IS SCARED TO FIGHT HIM NOW ....HE KNOWS THAT MARQUEZ IS NUTS AND WILL KEEEP COMING NO MATTER HO MANY TIMES HE GOES DOWN .......THAT MY FRIEND IS A SCARY THING FOR PAC CAUSE HE CANT KEEP HIM DOWN EVEN WITH HIS BEST SHOT CANT SAY THE SAME FOR PAC CAUSE HES BEEN KOED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • warp1432
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        #33
        115-113 is still possible if you have an even round scored.

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        • Miburo
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          #34
          It wasn't a ridiculously bad decision but they definitely got it wrong in this one.

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          • Chups
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            #35
            Here's an unbiased list.....unlike the thread starter who only posted scores who favors JMM.



            Doug Fischer of maxboxing.com - 114-114 Draw
            http://www.maxboxing.com/Fischer/Fischer031708.asp

            Brad Cooney of Cooney Entertainment - Draw


            Harold Lederman of HBO (not his article but mentioned in it) - 115-112 for Pacquiao
            http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...beats-marquez/

            Dan Rafael of espn.com – 114-113 for Marquez
            Two-way action? Plenty. Blood? Check. Drama? Of course. Manny Pacquiao's rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez contained all of the same elements that made their first fight a classic, with just one exception: No hung jury. In the end, the judges went with Pacquiao's harder punching and aggressiveness.


            Steve Kim of maxboxing.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao
            http://www.maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim031708.asp

            The Arizona Republic – 114-113 for Marquez


            Jeff Haney of Las Vegas Sun - 114-113 for Pacquiao
            http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008...ng-title-bout/

            Ricardo Lois of ******************.com – 115-112 for Marquez
            http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4125

            Michael Marley of ******************.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao
            http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4132

            SC of badlefthook.com – 114-113 for Marquez


            Ace Freeman of fightfan.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao


            Victor Perea of *********.com - 115-113 for Marquez
            http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIG...ao-marquez.htm

            ‘Undisputed’ of doghouseboxing.com – 115-114 for Pacquiao


            Bart Barry of 15rounds.com – 115-113 for Marquez
            http://15rounds.com/Columns/bbarry/aggressor-031708.php

            Ben Thompson of fighthype.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao


            Tim Starks of mvn - 114-113 for Marquez


            Aaron Jones of *********.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao
            http://www.*********.com/article_detail.php?AT=603

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            • Pugilistic™
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              #36
              I thought Marquez won 115-112.

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              • Chups
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                #37
                Chups of juanmanuelmarquez.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao





                Round 1: 10-9 Pacquiao (Pac connected more punches)
                Round 2: 10-9 Marquez (JMM buckled Pacquiao late)
                Round 3: 10-8 Pacquiao (KD)
                Round 4: 10-9 Pacquiao (This rd was even but I gave it to Pac)
                Round 5: 10-9 Marquez (Another even rd, gave it to JMM)
                Round 6: 10-9 Marquez (Definitely a JMM round)
                Round 7: 10-9 Marquez (Close but gave it to Marquez)
                Round 8: 10-9 Marquez (One-eyed Pac, JMM dominates)
                Round 9: 10-9 Pacquiao (Close but gave it to Pac)
                Round 10: 10-9 Pacquiao (Pac dominates this one)
                Round 11: 10-9 Pacquiao (even fight gave it to Pac)
                Round 12: 10-9 Marquez (even fight gave it to JMM)

                Total: 114-113 Pacquiao



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                • Katz
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                  #38
                  Packy beat Marquez period.....




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                  • Sin City
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                    #39
                    when 65 percent of people think Marquez won but didn't.. it's a robbery.
                    The numbers don't lie.. The majority of the press had it for Marquez as well as the fans.
                    It's cool though, Pacquiao still looked like a ***** since he couldn't get more then a split decision over an old man or put him away.

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                    • Nicky_Hatton
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                      #40
                      I admit I had Pac man losing by one round, but I can accept my limitations as a scorer and in some cases I was probably tried not to be too biased to my my more favourite Pac man. So I can see why Pac Man won. At the end of the day it was close but no robbery.

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