Is Calzaghe a Top 25 Fighter in the last 30 Years?

[Clegg]

he hasnt even been in the top p4p fr a year yet, and i think Jones will end his streak anyway.

Ok first of all, I gave you a list of names, and you haven't explained why you rate any of them above Calzaghe other than Tszyu.

For Tszyu, you've said it was because he was at one point rated near the top P4P. When I point out that Calzaghe is too, you suddenly decide that Calzaghe doesn't count because he has been "in the p4p fr a year yet". What does this mean? He has been in the top 10 for a few years now. Tszyu was in it for four years or so.

All of this is irrelevant because all P4P ranking are, is the opinion of other people. Your point is nothing more than "I rate Tszyu because other people said he was good at the time".

And who cares about the prediction for the Jones fight? You don't rate people's achievements based upon fights that haven't happened.

[hishaam15]

Ok first of all, I gave you a list of names, and you haven't explained why you rate any of them above Calzaghe other than Tszyu.

For Tszyu, you've said it was because he was at one point rated near the top P4P. When I point out that Calzaghe is too, you suddenly decide that Calzaghe doesn't count because he has been "in the p4p fr a year yet". What does this mean? He has been in the top 10 for a few years now. Tszyu was in it for four years or so.

All of this is irrelevant because all P4P ranking are, is the opinion of other people. Your point is nothing more than "I rate Tszyu because other people said he was good at the time".

i thought u were only talking about tszyu when you were sayin all the other names. Calzaghe has only been in the top 10 p4p since he beat lacy.

i agree my list isnt perfect, but its an accurate enough opinion of many other boxers acheiving more than Calzaghe had in the past 30 years.

[bsrizpac]

Ok first of all, I gave you a list of names, and you haven't explained why you rate any of them above Calzaghe other than Tszyu.

For Tszyu, you've said it was because he was at one point rated near the top P4P. When I point out that Calzaghe is too, you suddenly decide that Calzaghe doesn't count because he has been "in the p4p fr a year yet". What does this mean? He has been in the top 10 for a few years now. Tszyu was in it for four years or so.

All of this is irrelevant because all P4P ranking are, is the opinion of other people. Your point is nothing more than "I rate Tszyu because other people said he was good at the time".

And who cares about the prediction for the Jones fight? You don't rate people's achievements based upon fights that haven't happened.

I just wanted to ask you, since this thread began with Ricky claiming the Joe is greater than lennox lewis; do you have any thoughts about Joe fans like him?

[Clegg]

i thought u were only talking about tszyu when you were sayin all the other names. Calzaghe has only been in the top 10 p4p since he beat lacy.

Yes, which was more than a year ago. As I've said, Tszyu was hardly in there for much longer than Calzaghe.

And again, being rated in a P4P list is not an achievement and proves nothing.

i agree my list isnt perfect, but its an accurate enough opinion of many other boxers acheiving more than Calzaghe had in the past 30 years.

Perhaps, but we won't know that until you explain these achievements.

What did Tszyu, Corrales, Castillo, Foreman, Winky and Cotto achieve that puts them above Calzaghe?

[Clegg]

I just wanted to ask you, since this thread began with Ricky claiming the Joe is greater than lennox lewis; do you have any thoughts about Joe fans like him?

Ricky is a bit strange. I'm not sure if people like him and Dirk believe everything that they come out with.

There are a fair few Calzaghe fans who haven't been watching the sport for that long, so they don't have the knowledge to answer the poll question. In fact I don't think I have the knowledge to answer it; I've only seen Alexis Arguello's fights with Aaron Pryor, so I can't judge him based on that. The same is true of a couple of the names on the list.

I'm pretty sure Ricky said that he only started watching boxing when it was Calzaghe-Kessler.

[hishaam15]

Yes, which was more than a year ago. As I've said, Tszyu was hardly in there for much longer than Calzaghe.

And again, being rated in a P4P list is not an achievement and proves nothing.



Perhaps, but we won't know that until you explain these achievements.

What did Tszyu, Corrales, Castillo, Foreman, Winky and Cotto achieve that puts them above Calzaghe?

they were all top fighters, fought better competition than calzaghe and were more skilled than him.

[Deadbirds]

Hell No ! I can't put Calslappy in my top 25 !

[hishaam15]

Ricky is a bit strange. I'm not sure if people like him and Dirk believe everything that they come out with.

There are a fair few Calzaghe fans who haven't been watching the sport for that long, so they don't have the knowledge to answer the poll question. In fact I don't think I have the knowledge to answer it; I've only seen Alexis Arguello's fights with Aaron Pryor, so I can't judge him based on that. The same is true of a couple of the names on the list.

I'm pretty sure Ricky said that he only started watching boxing when it was Calzaghe-Kessler.

to be honest i dont know much about arguello either, i just put him there as benefit of the doubt.

[Clegg]

they were all top fighters

Calzaghe is a top fighter.

fought better competition than calzaghe

Ok, name them. Bernard Hopkins, despite being 43, was rated higher on the P4P list (that you place so much emphasis on) than the best wins of any of those people.

and were more skilled than him.

No, Tszyu was not a particularly skillful fighter (in comparison to the rest of the list), and as for 80 year old George Foreman...anyway, irrelevant, because you said you were basing it upon what they'd achieved.

to be honest i dont know much about arguello either, i just put him there as benefit of the doubt.

In achievements he's higher than Calzaghe, but I'm not sure how he compares to some of the others on the list.

[bsrizpac]

Ricky is a bit strange. I'm not sure if people like him and Dirk believe everything that they come out with.

There are a fair few Calzaghe fans who haven't been watching the sport for that long, so they don't have the knowledge to answer the poll question. In fact I don't think I have the knowledge to answer it; I've only seen Alexis Arguello's fights with Aaron Pryor, so I can't judge him based on that. The same is true of a couple of the names on the list.

I'm pretty sure Ricky said that he only started watching boxing when it was Calzaghe-Kessler.

So are you excusing his rampant ignorance, trolling, lack of boxing knowledge, casual fandom and constant trolling for Calzaghe because he's a fellow fan?

How is a he "a bit strange"? Call a ****** a ******. It's simple.