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  • Originally posted by Xplosivo View Post
    Here are some fighters to help you decide...

    Is calzaghe even top 25 from the last 30 years?

    here are some 30 fighters:

    Pernell Whitaker
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Felix Trinidad
    Roy Jones Jr
    Bernard Hopkins
    Marvin Hagler
    Floyd Mayweather
    Lennox Lewis
    Evander Holyfield
    Mike Tyson
    Larry Holmes
    George Foreman
    Manny Pacquiao
    Erik Morales
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    James Toney
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Wilfredo Gomez
    Alexis Arguello
    Miguel Cotto
    Aaron Pryor
    Roberto Duran
    Kostya Tsyzu
    Thomas Hearns
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Winky Wright
    Shane Mosley
    Michael Spinks
    Jose Luis Castillo

    if yes which fighters is he better than from this list? this is based on accomplishments/achievements...
    I think he's better than a couple guys you listed (Jose Lois Castillo, Juan Manuel Marquez?) but you're missing quite a few other fighters who should (rightfully) be placed higher than him. Azumah Nelson? Jeff Fenech?

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    • Originally posted by OptimusWolf View Post
      Calzaghe beat hopkins....hopkins beat wright.....

      winky beating up on a damaged outsized trinidad doesn't mean much more than hatton beating up on castillo. The mosley wins are bigger than the win over kessler but not enough to make up for the above.

      you don't seem to count losses against fighters then? Hey lets get winky and joe in the ring now. They fight at the same weight and are the same age. I know who I'd pick.
      Winky was the one moving up in weight to fight Trinidad, not the other way around.

      It surprised some people in the ring when Wright seemed bigger since he'd been @ 154 and Trinidad was @ 160 for his last 4 fights. Tito wasn't exactly small when he was a welterweight, he was a big WW.

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      • Show me an undefeated fighter and I'll show you a fighter who hasn't fought anyone.

        ^---such a perfect quote to apply to Calzaghe.

        God, what is it with people and nut-hugging this piece of ****? I think it's because he's British and white. I remember how people were so behind Ricky until he got stopped by FMJ. I am still a big Ricky fan, but most people jumped the boat because he lost. Now all of their hope rests on Calzaghe.

        Unfortunately for you guys, Calzaghe is going to lose to RJJ in his next fight and get exposed and nothing more than a slapping wannabe.

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        • Originally posted by Vigilant3 View Post
          Show me an undefeated fighter
          Floyd Mayweather? Miguel Cotto?

          Originally posted by Vigilant3 View Post
          and I'll show you a fighter who hasn't fought anyone.

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          • Originally posted by Xplosivo View Post
            Here are some fighters to help you decide...

            Is calzaghe even top 25 from the last 30 years?

            here are some 30 fighters:

            Pernell Whitaker
            Oscar De La Hoya
            Felix Trinidad
            Roy Jones Jr
            Bernard Hopkins
            Marvin Hagler
            Floyd Mayweather
            Lennox Lewis
            Evander Holyfield
            Mike Tyson
            Larry Holmes
            George Foreman
            Manny Pacquiao
            Erik Morales
            Marco Antonio Barrera
            Julio Cesar Chavez
            James Toney
            Juan Manuel Marquez
            Wilfredo Gomez
            Alexis Arguello
            Miguel Cotto
            Aaron Pryor
            Roberto Duran
            Kostya Tsyzu
            Thomas Hearns
            Sugar Ray Leonard
            Winky Wright
            Shane Mosley
            Michael Spinks
            Jose Luis Castillo

            if yes which fighters is he better than from this list? this is based on accomplishments/achievements...
            When you put it like that, no. He is a good fighter though.

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            • lol No.

              Marvin Hagler
              SRL
              Tommy Hearns
              Mike Tyson
              Evander Holyfield
              Lennox Lewis
              Roy Jones Jr
              Oscar De La Hoya
              Felix Trinidad
              Julio Cesar Chavez
              Meldrick Taylor
              Aaron Pryor
              Alexis Arguello
              James Toney
              Michael Nunn
              Marco Antonio Barrera
              Erik Morales
              Naseem Hamed
              Floyd Mayweather Jr
              Bernard Hopkins
              Winky Wright
              Manny Pacquiao
              Shane Mosley
              Jose Luis Castillo
              Pernell Whitaker



              All much, much, much, better fighters.



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              • I just decided to post my top 25 like list. No order.



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                • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  I think he's better than a couple guys you listed (Jose Lois Castillo, Juan Manuel Marquez?) but you're missing quite a few other fighters who should (rightfully) be placed higher than him. Azumah Nelson? Jeff Fenech?
                  Calzaghe is by no means a better fighter than Jose Luis Castillo. LMFAO.

                  Nowhere near. Not on the same level.



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                  • Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
                    Calzaghe is by no means a better fighter than Jose Luis Castillo. LMFAO.

                    Nowhere near. Not on the same level.
                    castillo always fought the best..

                    i cant say the same about Joe Calzaghe

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                    • Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
                      Calzaghe is by no means a better fighter than Jose Luis Castillo. LMFAO.

                      Nowhere near. Not on the same level.
                      Let's forget about the 4 times that Castillo was stopped in his first 37 fights (against mediocre opposition, mind you.) Against good or great fighters:
                      Mayweather, LUD12, LUD12
                      Diego Corrales LTKO10, WTKO4(when Castillo failed to make weight)
                      Ricky Hatton LKO4
                      Joel Casamayor WMD12
                      Stevie Johnston WMD12, D12

                      Calzaghe is nowhere near this guy?

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