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  • #41
    Originally posted by audibleone View Post
    TCNŽ SOULJAH's first post happens to be in this thread agreeing and defending your post with almost the same type of "typography" and you claim he isn't your alt?

    Seriously guys, all Floyd fans aren't like this. All Floyd fans are not this hypocritical. On behalf of the real fans, we apologize for Horus.
    alts have that one little karma thing instead of a whole karma bar.he calls hmslef a soldiewr and horeus has a a kid sharpining a pencil with a knife.get real horeus.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by ANTON THE GREAT View Post
      i think you give your cleverness to much credit.font size and colors?thats you written all over it.don't be ****ing ******.go back to your floyd shrine ****bucket.
      why are you still responding to these idiots?
      you know they just a bunch of racists.. that's why they caught ghosts when Calzaghe whooped Nard and Quintana humiliated Williams.
      I stopped reading their bull**** a LOONNNG ass time ago.. you should do the same!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by T-97 View Post
        Does that include me? Cause...I ain't no racist
        I dunno you personally and never talked to you before.. but if you hanging arounf a Klan rally you will be labeled racist. Just like if you hanging with these loons.. people are gonna think you the same.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by DiegoFuego View Post
          We have come to a time when we play up potential Mayweather opponents just to keep Floyd in the ring.
          Yeah, and it's working so well

          Originally posted by DiegoFuego View Post
          A lot of us realize he's top 10 ever material and we don't want to lose him.


          Originally posted by DiegoFuego View Post
          Many want to see him tested so we just rush whoever is available forward.
          Wasn't Margarito put forward before Hatton? Yet for some reason Floyd decided against that match-up. I guess he was being considerate and didn't want to rush Margarito or something...

          Besides, Hatton was as ready as he was ever going to be and was a better opponent than the Big Show. Floyd should fight the best available, not take up wrestling instead as if there is no-one to fight.

          Originally posted by DiegoFuego View Post
          Look at how Hatton, a guy who had no chance at all, was played up as a serious threat. The thing is, once Cotto is beaten, we'll just find somebody else to start playing up. Eventually, Floyd needs to walk away because it will never stop. Look how quickly everybody dropped Hatton. The guy is fighting Saturday and hardly anybody even knows it. He's fighting on ****ing free TV in the middle of the day because NOBODY cares other than his countrymen.
          No, Hatton chose to fight at UK time and against a poor opponent, and so HBO had no interest in that particular fight. If nobody cared about him, he wouldn't have just signed a new deal with HBO and GBP. It doesn't really matter though, does it? Quality and popularity are not the same thing.

          Originally posted by DiegoFuego View Post
          Eventually Floyd will need to walk away and he'll be called a coward by the fans of whoever the next guy is after Cotto, or the guy after him, but it won't stop. The Cotto fans will disappear just as fast as the Hatton fans did and the cycle will continue. Guys will join here with the new guy in their sigs and claim he's the best and all this bull****.
          So Floyd should retire because even if he grows some balls and fights Cotto, there might be another good fighter out there in the future?

          Stop coming up with excuses, the reason Mayweather gets called a coward is because he is not fighting the best opposition.
          Last edited by Clegg; 05-23-2008, 02:17 PM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by ANTON THE GREAT View Post
            this muthufuca created an alt to answer his own questions.
            I am not an alt of Horus. Boxingscene administration can prove that. I am an invited Coalition member. I also was responding the 'answers' of left2body, not the 'questions' of Horus.

            But, any excuse for you to avoid the questions and insult their author.

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            • #46
              The most ridiculous aspect of this thread is that the standards Horus has set for Cotto weren't even met by Hatton, Baldomir, Brussels, Mitchell and even De La Hoya because even though it was a GOOD win for Floyd, De La Hoya is no longer "great" at this stage of his career. He wasn't even ranked in the top 10 when Floyd fought him nor is he the best of his own division. Horus is a joke.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Horus View Post
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                Attention Boxing Fans I have some questions for you guys since the Cotto fans cant seem to answer these questions:


                TOP 5 Legitimate Questions that People have ask about Miguel Cotto


                1.Is Miguel Cotto a great fighter right now or just a deserving young fighter that Floyd needs to fight?

                If he is a great fighter ...why and how..?

                What champions have he beat for a belt..?
                What P4P Highly ranked fighter has he beat..?
                Cotto has never been highly ranked on the P4P List..!
                Cotto has never fought a young, prime, active, p4p fighter yet..!

                Cotto is on the cusps of Greatness he is not great yet, IMO he haven't put himself in a position to be recognize as a great fighter.....

                When was the last time cotto was a not a favorite going into a fight ..??


                2.Will Cotto vs Mayweather be two prime GREAT fighters going up against each other OR will there be just one great fighter in that ring that night?

                Will Cotto vs.Mayweather be the same to
                SRL vs. Duran or will Cotto be no better then Ricky Hatton if Cotto doesn't manage to make the fight competitive enough to be perceive to really challenge Floyd

                Because the way it looks right now, even though there is high demand for this fight, Floyd is EXPECTED to win this fight.

                3.Why isn't Cotto a draw Like Tito Trinidad, even though he has the advantage of a build in fan base (Puerto Ricans) and Latino's......???

                Cotto vs. Paulie = 100k Buys
                Cotto vs. Judah = 220,000 buys
                Cotto vs. Mosley = 340,000 buys

                Felix Trinidad vs. Big Names Besides Oscar:

                Felix Trinidad vs. Roy Jones 500,000 PPV
                Felix Trinidad vs. Winky Wright 510,000 buys
                Felix Trinidad vs. Bernard Hopkins 475,000 buys
                Felix Trinidad vs. Ricardo Mayorga 420,000 buys
                Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas 560,000 buys



                4.If the Cotto vs. Margarito Fight is going to be a Huge Success

                Why Didn't Puerto Ricans and Mexicans Watch their fighters for Free on HBO...To let the world know that when they fight on P.P.V that this fight is going to be a Huge Success??

                Is that how it works, they wont watch them for free, but they will willingly pay $50 bucks to watch them fight.....



                5. Is Miguel Cotto Really WW or a Junior Middle Weight...?

                We all know that Miguel Cotto drains himself to make weight for the welther weight division....he has been doing this for years he even did it at 140, when He entered the ring weighing 157-pounds, making him a Jr. Middleweight defending his Jr. Welterweight Title over his 140-pound challenger, DeMarcus Corley.

                So the real question is why havent Miguel Cotto move up to his Natural Weight Class....

                Which is Junior Middle Weight or Middle Weight..Instead of Draining Himself 20 pounds for every fight...?

                you have to wonder how he'd fare against contenders who enter the ring weighing 154 or more, like he does all the time.

                Cotto needs to move up to at least 154. It cannot be healthy to lose 20 plus pounds for an official weigh-in and then gain almost 20 pounds before stepping between the ropes.

                That should not be allowed.
                New York Rules do not allow unofficial weigh in to be announce of fight night... (i.e Mosley and Judah Fight No Unofficial Weigh In)

                Miguel Cotto should not be fighting at Welther Weight if he is going to enter the ring as a Middle Weight It's just not right. Arguments can be made that Cotto is starving himself to fight at Welter, so he can have an advantage in size and power over smaller men.

                I don't understand why he's allowed to show up so far over the weight limit. What ever happened to rules? If a fight is contracted for 140-pounds and you show up 157 (Corley), then you have breeched the contract. Without rules, where's the legitimacy?





                The General Concerns I have with Cotto....

                Cotto has been on cloud 9 before he was even a champion,
                Now that Cotto has become boxing Last hope to become the Anti-Floyd....., He has left himself no room to grow as a fighter... To have the experience to be able to defeat Mayweather and it's now too late. So much hype and money have went in to this kid, and I mean kid, that he has to fight the best in the division now.

                No More Unproven Contenders Like Gomez,
                No More Past their Prime Old Fighters Mosely in which He barely Wins..
                No More fighting non active fighters like Judah
                He now has to fight Prime,Active, Young , P4P, Highly ranked Fighters....
                There is no more grace time.....The Time is Now....
                And His First Test is Margarito....
                Remember Cotto has never had to beat a Champion For his Title...He has always fought fellow contenders for vacant titles....

                I have been seeing this coming though, but the commentators on HBO are just commenting on the good things they see. Instead of the little things he does wrong that champions will see and will counter, and will not miss. He still gets hit a lot, and wastes a lot of punches. Sometimes he punches from too far out and leaves gaps where he can be countered or beaten to the punch.

                • Zab Judah Show you how to counter him....
                • Shane Mosley show you how to pressure him
                • Demarcus Corely Show you how to accurately hit him...


                and Margarito will Probably show how can he handle being hurt by somebody who can finish the job
                And all those fighters all had defaults in their game....Either they were too old, primes their prime, not active before fighting him, or basic contenders.....


                Steward,Merchant and Lampley make him out to be some phenom, because he's KO'd a bunch of lightweights, contenders,and Past their prime fighters
                when they know he's starving to make the weight.

                I am not saying Cotto doesn't have a chance against Prime Young P4P Fighters
                but he still might be too green to face the guy that His Fans and Arum are expecting Cotto to now fight. "Mayweather"
                He still has very good skills, power, and a lot of heart, that will keep in the fights. Unfortunately, he still gets hit a lot, and wastes a lot of punches.

                And Everybody Knows Mayweather Is the Most Accurate, Counter Puncher probably in Boxing History.....and with 25 Knockouts on his records
                2 on them coming in his last 5 fights... and 4 of them coming against Top, Young, Prime, Active, and some even Undefeated Fighters.
                Cotto Flaws....Of Getting alot , and wasting a lot of punches, Is a flaw you can not afford to have against The Elite Fighters....., and The Most Elite Fighter in Mayweather
                ...
                Good Read.....


                Some of those Question are legitimate.....
                But I think you are judging Cotto base on what his fans make him out to be rather than what he is.....and That is Unfair

                One Point I do agree on is that "Cotto is on the cusps of Greatness he is not great yet.."

                So IMo you must Judge him accordingly

                Cotto is a Fighter who is very Exciting, but does has some serious flaws.
                But with time I think he will fix those flaws and then truly be a Great Fighter.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by audibleone View Post
                  The most ridiculous aspect of this thread is that the standards Horus has set for Cotto weren't even met by Hatton, Baldomir, Brussels, Mitchell and even De La Hoya because even though it was a GOOD win for Floyd, De La Hoya is no longer "great" at this stage of his career. He wasn't even ranked in the top 10 when Floyd fought him nor is he the best of his own division. Horus is a joke.
                  I am only ask the Questions....That people have ask that never get answer by Cotto Fans....


                  What Standards am I putting on Cotto..


                  That De LA hOya didnt put on Mayweather

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Horus View Post
                    I am only ask the Questions....That people have ask that never get answer by Cotto Fans....


                    What Standards am I putting on Cotto..


                    That De LA Hoya didnt put on Mayweather
                    Is Ricky Hatton a GREATER fighter than Miguel Cotto? Is Carlos Baldomir a greater fighter than Miguel Cotto?

                    You say Shane Mosley is past his prime so what does that make De La Hoya?

                    Why can't you answer those questions?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Devious. View Post
                      I dunno you personally and never talked to you before.. but if you hanging arounf a Klan rally you will be labeled racist. Just like if you hanging with these loons.. people are gonna think you the same.
                      Ah but there is a sligh paradox within that theory. They will assume i discriminate people who are of a different colour because i am in a certain group. Therefore discriminating me, because they assume i am racist without knowing me. There only evidence is that i am in the Coalition. Savvy?

                      I joined cause i'm a Floyd fan. I'm no racist. I don't think people hate me. I joined the group cause I like Floyd and it's a Floyd group..

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