If Miranda wins it's Froch next. Who wins?

[BattlingNelson]

Just wondering. As the WBA #2, wouldn't it be more naturally, that the next fight would be as a mandatory for the WBA belt?.

Yes it would, but Miranda chose to fight Abraham instead.

[BattlingNelson]

i can categorically state that no one will school froch..

hes unbelievably strong and his stlye draws you in,you will see give it a year or so then get back to me when hes a world champion,i know talent when i see it

Whoa... Keep stating your opinions. Thats cool.

Maybe, just maybe, you made a little hubris with that statement.

I'll check you in a year!

[SkillspayBills]

Fight won't be going the distance. You can bank on that ****.

[Pantera2000]

Yes it would, but Miranda chose to fight Abraham instead.

Let's state the facts: Miranda wanted to fight the best available. Kessler made himself unavailable so he worked out a deal with Abraham. To say Miranda chose Abraham over Kessler is a joke. You ask Miranda today and he would have rather fought Kessler. But he knew Abraham was a sure thing and likes that fight almost as much. Nobody wants to deal with Palle after the **** he pulled.

[BattlingNelson]

Let's state the facts: Miranda wanted to fight the best available. Kessler made himself unavailable so he worked out a deal with Abraham. To say Miranda chose Abraham over Kessler is a joke. You ask Miranda today and he would have rather fought Kessler. But he knew Abraham was a sure thing and likes that fight almost as much. Nobody wants to deal with Palle after the **** he pulled.

Let's state the facts: Kessler negotiated Miranda while simultanenuosly negotiating Mundine. Team Kessler couldn't come to terms with team Miranda (for reasons unknown), and tried to finish the deal with Mundine.

Team Kessler couldn't come to terms with team Mundine (for reasons unknown) and got back to team Miranda who renegotiated with team Kessler while simultaneuosly negotiating a rematch with team Abraham.

Miranda chose Abraham and Kessler was the odd man out.

[majestiC]

Miranda is the most overrated boxer in world boxing today....

[Pantera2000]

Let's state the facts: Kessler negotiated Miranda while simultanenuosly negotiating Mundine. Team Kessler couldn't come to terms with team Miranda (for reasons unknown), and tried to finish the deal with Mundine.

Team Kessler couldn't come to terms with team Mundine (for reasons unknown) and got back to team Miranda who renegotiated with team Kessler while simultaneuosly negotiating a rematch with team Abraham.

Miranda chose Abraham and Kessler was the odd man out.

Wrong! They NEVER renegotiated! After Palle screwed them over, Warriors told them to lose their number. Palle went running back to HBO to try to force the fight (after he lost the Mundine chance) but Warriors wanted nothing to do with him since a deal was nearly done with Abraham.

Get your facts straight. This is 100% how it went down!

[BattlingNelson]

Wrong! They NEVER renegotiated! After Palle screwed them over, Warriors told them to lose their number. Palle went running back to HBO to try to force the fight (after he lost the Mundine chance) but Warriors wanted nothing to do with him since a deal was nearly done with Abraham.

Get your facts straight. This is 100% how it went down!

My 'facts' was as it looked from my vantagepoint. I stated that there was a renegotiation. Of course I have no inside knowledge, but that was stated as presented by several media outlets.

Wether Warriors (team Miranda) showed Kessler the door before hearing what they had to say I cannot tell, but it would strike me as a little odd if they didn't at least look at the second proposal. If they did look at the second proposal then I'd have to define that instantly as a renegotiation. But if you say they didn't look I'll have to take your word for it.

[Pantera2000]

My 'facts' was as it looked from my vantagepoint. I stated that there was a renegotiation. Of course I have no inside knowledge, but that was stated as presented by several media outlets.

Wether Warriors (team Miranda) showed Kessler the door before hearing what they had to say I cannot tell, but it would strike me as a little odd if they didn't at least look at the second proposal. If they did look at the second proposal then I'd have to define that instantly as a renegotiation. But if you say they didn't look I'll have to take your word for it.

There was no second proposal. Palle made demands. Warriors matched each and everyone of them. Then Palle disappeared. No phone call, nothing. Warrior's found out though Showtime that Kesser pulled out. Showtime/Warriors were pissed. Sauerland came around and pitched a fight with Abraham to take Kessler's place. Negotiations began and went pretty fast. During this time Mundine deal was impossible so Palle ran back, this time to HBO, and said they would accept Warrior's offer (the original one that met all of Palle's demands). HBO called Warriors to see if they could make it happen. Warrior's told HBO too late, we are in a deal with Sauerland and Showtime.

I have no reason to bull****. If Palle came back and Warrior's negotiated both parties, I would say Palle deserved it anyway. But it didnt happen that way. There was never talk between Palle and Warriors after they left the first time. No more then HBO trying to sway Warrior's into coming back and screwing over Sauerland. But it never even was considered.

[BattlingNelson]

There was no second proposal. Palle made demands. Warriors matched each and everyone of them. Then Palle disappeared. No phone call, nothing. Warrior's found out though Showtime that Kesser pulled out. Showtime/Warriors were pissed. Sauerland came around and pitched a fight with Abraham to take Kessler's place. Negotiations began and went pretty fast. During this time Mundine deal was impossible so Palle ran back, this time to HBO, and said they would accept Warrior's offer (the original one that met all of Palle's demands). HBO called Warriors to see if they could make it happen. Warrior's told HBO too late, we are in a deal with Sauerland and Showtime.

I have no reason to bull****. If Palle came back and Warrior's negotiated both parties, I would say Palle deserved it anyway. But it didnt happen that way. There was never talk between Palle and Warriors after they left the first time. No more then HBO trying to sway Warrior's into coming back and screwing over Sauerland. But it never even was considered.

I get your point. Thanks for sharing the inside info.