Teddy Atlas : Mike Tyson did'nt have character

[C'MONMANG']

Teddy says he PLANNED to K-I-L-L Donny

Hey I guys I repsect John. But Teddy has a LOT of street in him Just like Bhop and John just for some reason hates on those guys, I dunno why. Cause I like John I do. I like his stories and his posts. I never saw him fight, but saw him work the corner a few times. Props to you John. I like you.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Hey I guys I repsect John. But Teddy has a LOT of street in him Just like Bhop and John just for some reason hates on those guys, I dunno why. Cause I like John I do. I like his stories and his posts. I never saw him fight, but saw him work the corner a few times. Props to you John. I like you.

LOL thanks I feel a lot better now...but..lol.... I dont hate on anyone, I only point on opinions..teddy came from a middle class family, his father was a well regarded doctor, he was not a street person so to speak. If I come down on guys because the street and its image and its codes and its whole deal is totally out of wack then so be it. Teddy cannot critique people without being critiqued back for doing similar things, that's all I am saying

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

I have also heard from MORE THAN A FEW people over the years who have said that Teddy put the gun to Tyson's head..and then Cuz had to really talk Mike out of getting guys from Brownsville to come upstate to kill Teddy. You guys have NEVER heard Mike's side to the story... I bet there is a lot more to it than just what we have heard thus far. You have to assume that Tyson was not the type of guy to take something like that...i am sure he had plans for Teddy. Also, for what it is worth, say what you want about Tyson and his tempter, etc etc...but I would think Teddy might be lucky in a certain sense that at least once in all these years Tyson didnt decide to have someone break Teddy's legs or, even worse, Mike didnt attack Teddy himself in a fit if rage at some function, you know?

[gazdastrip]

I have also heard from MORE THAN A FEW people over the years who have said that Teddy put the gun to Tyson's head..and then Cuz had to really talk Mike out of getting guys from Brownsville to come upstate to kill Teddy. You guys have NEVER heard Mike's side to the story... I bet there is a lot more to it than just what we have heard thus far. You have to assume that Tyson was not the type of guy to take something like that...i am sure he had plans for Teddy. Also, for what it is worth, say what you want about Tyson and his tempter, etc etc...but I would think Teddy might be lucky in a certain sense that at least once in all these years Tyson didnt decide to have someone break Teddy's legs or, even worse, Mike didnt attack Teddy himself in a fit if rage at some function, you know?

I think Atlas is a well connected guy. I think Tyson thinks that too. Otherwise, I believe he would have approached him. The bottom line is, Teddy can say whatever he wants about Tyson, and Tyson aint going to do a thing about it. Atlas was a street guy too. He LIVED in a middle class section, but he chose to hang in the streets, and got into a boatload of trouble. That is the streets. What isn't the streets, is living near them, and going to a gym where they work out. He did live the street life. Others, see it, and act like they are a part of it.

[aussieboxer2320]

didnt atlas put a gun to mikes head or something???

[champion4ever]

Speaking of calling the kettle black, who is Teddy to try and assess someone's character, given his long history of criminal juvenile behavior. Had he not been white, he probably would have become a statistic by now. However since he wasn't a black, the courts had thrown him much undeserved leniency and patience. In addition, had it not been for Cus D'Amato, no one would have never known who this annoying Teddy Atlas fellow was.

Mike didn't grow up with the same privileges, opportunities, options and chances that were awarded Atlas; The son a physician. Being some punk hotheaded hoodlum was the life that Atlas had chosen.

Tyson wasn't afforded the same luxuries as Teddy Atlas however. He grew up poor, limited and handicapped by white racism. He didn't literally have the silverspoon in his mouth at birth like Atlas. The places that Teddy could go, Mike couldn't.

I am not making any excuses for Mike. Yes he has made mistakes along the way and he has paid dearly for them. I am not denying that fact. All I am saying is, until one walk in another man shoes, then they have no right to sit back to judge him at all.

[champion4ever]

Yes he did. Like the coward he is. A grown 26 year old man, pulling a gun on a 15 year old child. That doesn't make one brave, courageous or a man in my book, it makes them a punk coward. If you got to hide behind a gun, it just shows what lack of character one truly have.

[Thread Stealer]

For a guy that always preaches about character, that sure sounds very hypocritical.

Atlas also speaks loudly about how bad mismatches are for boxing, but has little problem with his own fighters facing overmatched foes.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...ut-dodge-city/

[C'MONMANG']

I have also heard from MORE THAN A FEW people over the years who have said that Teddy put the gun to Tyson's head..and then Cuz had to really talk Mike out of getting guys from Brownsville to come upstate to kill Teddy. You guys have NEVER heard Mike's side to the story... I bet there is a lot more to it than just what we have heard thus far. You have to assume that Tyson was not the type of guy to take something like that...i am sure he had plans for Teddy. Also, for what it is worth, say what you want about Tyson and his tempter, etc etc...but I would think Teddy might be lucky in a certain sense that at least once in all these years Tyson didnt decide to have someone break Teddy's legs or, even worse, Mike didnt attack Teddy himself in a fit if rage at some function, you know?

Mike would lose that Battle to Teddy. Teddy can be pretty thugged out if he wants. Its also a mental thing..Teddy doesnt back down. Remember him pushing George Foreman at the Moorer/ Foreman press conference?

Also, the fighter who was locked up for **** for like 20 years..Tony Ayala? I think his name was..

He came outta prison and had a fight on ESPN after the fight him and Teddy were standing side by side and Ayala said something to affect " Do you want to apologize for what you said, or take back what you said about me" (something like that ) and Teddy just gave him the emotionless look on his face and said "No"....Tony could see on Teddys FACE THAT Teddy aint one to bully.. He just turned his head. I was thinking DAYUM, HE JUST GOT OWNED!

Also in Teddy'S BOOK he says he also use to work out with Sammy THE BULL.

man Teddy aint fraid of Tyson

I like you Joh I do,. but stop hating on street guys like JHop and Teddy, cuz you are pretty cool and it "seems" LIKE YOUR a hater, but i KNOW BETTER...

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

LOL street guys are a dime a dozen. And guess what..lets be real on this..if Tyson and Teddy were to match up in the street you would be insane to think Teddy would last...he got in George's face, sure he did..at a press conference with 150 people right there....he knew George wouldnt attack him....I mean, I am sure Teddy is tough and all, I dont say he isnt...hes been there...but the guy isnt Mister Indestructable. Ask Kirk Johnson