Lennox Lewis is A JOKE, PATHETIC, COWARD, ETC..ETC...

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Let's ask Thread Stealer about Lennox-Vitali

ahh, the good ole lummox-****ali argument.

Lennox is easy to criticize because he's well, Lennox, but Mickey Walker is rarely criticized for not rematching Tiger Flowers (a real controversy). Muhammad Ali is rarely criticized for not rematching Jimmy Young and Ken Norton again (real controversies). Larry Holmes not that much for not rematching Tim Witherspoon (real controversy). Eusebio Pedroza never rematched Juan Laporte or Bernard Taylor (real controversies).

Yet you hardly hear people talking about this, and these guys kept fighting on, meaning they still had the desire to fight, but didn't want to rematch the guys who gave them real controversial fights (not a tough fight which is fairly won on a gruesome cut). Lewis was already losing his motivation, as evidenced by his lack of proper preparation for both this and the first Rahman fight.

Lummox may be a lousy commentator who sounds like a flaming ****sexual, but coward, no.

People (especially ****ali fanboys) can argue all they want about "Brittley would have, could have, should have" done this if not for the cut. Fine, they can have that.

The rest of the world can see what DID happen. Quitali had a Lewis in front of him who was inactive for over a year, overweight, and nearly 38 years old. He lost.

Of course, Lewis was such a great fighter even when he was underprepared. Surely, he couldn't lose to Oleg Maskaev's ***** when he was underprepared, right?



Naturally, Lewis when 2 years older, less active, and even heavier, still WON against ****ali.

****ali fanboys are like that security guard in The Wire. They want it to be one way (their speculation of what would have, could have, should have happened), but it's the other way (reality, Lewis TKO 6 Vitali).

[Flab]

Vitali was clearly winning the fight at the time of the controversial stoppage....He was kicking Lewis' ass with ONE EYE, Vitali hurt Lewis several times and made him stagger like a drunk....Vitali gave Lewis the biggest ass whoopin of his career....After the fight all the fans cheered Vitali and boo'd Lewis.

I lost all the respect I had for Lewis when he retired like a coward.

Vitali scared Lewis into retirement, that's the bottom line.

[KnockoutTheFat]

ahh, the good ole lummox-****ali argument.

Lennox is easy to criticize because he's well, Lennox, but Mickey Walker is rarely criticized for not rematching Tiger Flowers (a real controversy). Muhammad Ali is rarely criticized for not rematching Jimmy Young and Ken Norton again (real controversies). Larry Holmes not that much for not rematching Tim Witherspoon (real controversy). Eusebio Pedroza never rematched Juan Laporte or Bernard Taylor (real controversies).

Yet you hardly hear people talking about this, and these guys kept fighting on, meaning they still had the desire to fight, but didn't want to rematch the guys who gave them real controversial fights (not a tough fight which is fairly won on a gruesome cut). Lewis was already losing his motivation, as evidenced by his lack of proper preparation for both this and the first Rahman fight.

Lummox may be a lousy commentator who sounds like a flaming ****sexual, but coward, no.

People (especially ****ali fanboys) can argue all they want about "Brittley would have, could have, should have" done this if not for the cut. Fine, they can have that.

The rest of the world can see what DID happen. Quitali had a Lewis in front of him who was inactive for over a year, overweight, and nearly 38 years old. He lost.

Of course, Lewis was such a great fighter even when he was underprepared. Surely, he couldn't lose to Oleg Maskaev's ***** when he was underprepared, right?



Naturally, Lewis when 2 years older, less active, and even heavier, still WON against ****ali.

****ali fanboys are like that security guard in The Wire. They want it to be one way (their speculation of what would have, could have, should have happened), but it's the other way (reality, Lewis TKO 6 Vitali).

You know, I actually appreciate Vitali's style, but when you have this would've, could've, should've crap, it's easy to pick on him. To think that he got stopped by a guy who got stopped by a feather-fisted LHW is unimaginable. The would've could've should've theory applies here too but the fact is:



Chris Byrd TKO9 Vitali Klitschko

Nothing is going to change that, which is pretty pathetic for Vitali, where all he had to do was play defense.

[MickyHatton]

Lewis won the fight legitemately, but he obviously had trouble which made him realise enough is enough. Whats this thread about?

To call any boxer a coward is disrespectful as it takes more guts than most people ever need to climb into a ring but to call Lewis a coward, the guy dominated the Heavyweight division for a period and fought and beat some good and great fighters along the way.

He just got old???

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You know, I actually appreciate Vitali's style, but when you have this would've, could've, should've crap, it's easy to pick on him. To think that he got stopped by a guy who got stopped by a feather-fisted LHW is unimaginable. The would've could've should've theory applies here too but the fact is:



Chris Byrd TKO9 Vitali Klitschko

Nothing is going to change that, which is pretty pathetic for Vitali, where all he had to do was play defense.

The losses to Byrd and Lewis would be glossed over more if he had more quality wins. As it is, he was a capable heavyweight (yes, I will give him that), without a good share of quality wins over top heavyweights. He had some decent wins, but in terms of the quantity of quality wins over top heavyweights at the time, he's no better than some of the 80s alpha HW titlists that get bashed all the time.

It's most speculation, and you should rank fighters on resumes and achievement, not speculation and "fun facts".

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Just watched the klitchsko fight for the tenth time and it still baffles me how lewis can run into retirement after that fight without issuing a rematch and has enough satisfaction in doing it to be happy about it and call himself the best of all time and he went out "on top". pathetic!

I'll never take you seriously as a poster after your bull**** thread on how Cotto got wobbled by Gomez.

[DuttyBadBoyx]

I Think the man fled like a gutless coward to be honest..
He knew he would get his ass kicked if he fought VK again..

He went has far has to saying he would give VK a rematch when he was
asked straight after the fight from VK himself now thats what i dont like about
the man..

He was clever enough to quit the game.
Not because of him wanting to retire on top! i dont believe that at all
He got out cuz he knew he was gonna get knocked out

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yeah, u know lewis said a rematch was going to happen. what happened to that? does that get glossed over because he was "too old."

i think vitali seemed to be more than he could handle - add in the age factor if u want. he knew vk was hungry for lewis's title. i would bet that a rematch would've been the toughest fight he would've ever had. vk would not have been as respectfull in the ring.

and some of you people need to not hate a fighter because of his fans. u guys can't be that ******ed. the brothers are nothing like a good 60% of their fans you know.

anyways, this is too old for me to argue about. people think with their hearts more than about how a ematch would play out - which is basically what this thread was about. and i just love how ll waited until the last month to decide to retire. he was really pissed at vitali for some reason.

[beez721]

bull****, lewis schooled him before stopping him man, lewis is ten times the boxer that both the klitchsko brothers are put together..............

uh,,,I think someone needs to actually watch the fight

[BKM-]

People who (incredibly) ***** about the Lewis-Vitali fight always forget one little insignificant (for what does it matter when outrage is involved?) bit of information: Lewis won legitimately. There was no robbery, no bad decision, no room for argument.

There is nothing else that should be said really, but this subject will always get people involved. The ones that go on about the scorecards being in favor of Vitali, does it matter that he won some rounds before the critical ending of the fight that was going into Lewis' favor? It doesn't matter if Vitali beat the crap out of Lewis for every single round before the last one, because in the end he was risking permanent damage to his eyes, so it was rightfully stopped.

And another thing, I don't think anyone actually thinks this fight would have gone to the decision in any way, so that makes those points even less significant(except for the fact that Vitali was getting the better of an old Lewis).

like someone said before, you don't always have to beat someone twice. This was a completely diffirent situation for Lewis. He was gonna end his career anyhow and klitschko got to him by luck, and let the oppurtunity slip away from him. Lennox did the right thing at the end.